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Rita C Wed Oct 10, 2007 11:34pm

Was it too much?
 
I was scheduled to work a doubleheader on Sunday. It rained so hard that we only got in about 2 innings.

Today I received a check for both games. Is this the standard? I would have expected only payment for the one game.

Rita

SanDiegoSteve Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:43am

Traditionaly you would only be paid for the game that you started. If they paid you for two you may want to check with whoever it was that paid you. They may have paid you for two games on purpose.

jicecone Thu Oct 11, 2007 08:17am

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Originally Posted by Rita C
I was scheduled to work a doubleheader on Sunday. It rained so hard that we only got in about 2 innings.

Today I received a check for both games. Is this the standard? I would have expected only payment for the one game.

Rita

This happened to me a couple of times in the past when I was doing NCAA ball. We would receive the checks upfront at home plate.

I asked my assignor and was told that it was easier to take and cash the checks, then to try and get them redone in the system.

It kind of evened out on those bad weather days that took like 10 hrs to get a double header in. (That included travel time)

gordon30307 Thu Oct 11, 2007 08:35am

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Originally Posted by Rita C
I was scheduled to work a doubleheader on Sunday. It rained so hard that we only got in about 2 innings.

Today I received a check for both games. Is this the standard? I would have expected only payment for the one game.

Rita

The baseball gods will punish you soon enough. They want the books to balance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

bob jenkins Thu Oct 11, 2007 08:47am

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Originally Posted by Rita C
I was scheduled to work a doubleheader on Sunday. It rained so hard that we only got in about 2 innings.

Today I received a check for both games. Is this the standard? I would have expected only payment for the one game.

Rita

Are you sure one of thsoe checks wasn't for Canadaump's rainout? ;)

UmpLarryJohnson Thu Oct 11, 2007 09:25am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins
Are you sure one of thsoe checks wasn't for Canadaump's rainout? ;)


R.O.T.F.L.


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GarthB Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:58am

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Originally Posted by Rita C
I was scheduled to work a doubleheader on Sunday. It rained so hard that we only got in about 2 innings.

Today I received a check for both games. Is this the standard? I would have expected only payment for the one game.

Rita

Yes. It was "too much."

Personally, I would contact whoever issued the check prior to cashing it and inform them that you worked only one game. They will either re-issue a check or tell you to keep the one you have. Let them make the decision.

Steven Tyler Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:23am

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Originally Posted by Rita C
I was scheduled to work a doubleheader on Sunday. It rained so hard that we only got in about 2 innings.

Today I received a check for both games. Is this the standard? I would have expected only payment for the one game.

Rita

I wouldn't sweat it. Cash the check, pocket the money and not worry about it. Unless you know for sure how they pay the umpires, I'd assume that is their policy to pay you games you were scheduled, showed up for, but were rained out. Once you started the first game, I suppose they considered you were on the clock for the whole day. Different leagues, different policies. They could have been paying you out of courtesy. The people that write the checks should know both games didn't get played.

I suggest you do what makes you feel the best.

piaa_ump Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:30pm

My .02
 
I'd make a call to the league and find out what the policy is.......I would attempt to return the one check.....if they dont accept it fine, but its an effort that will ensure good relationships....

This summer I had a game that we were paid in full and in advance of the first pitch......3 innings later we were rained out.....In this league we get $20for showing up and 3 an inning if not a complete game. My partner and I went to the official and gave back our $45 dollar fee to be exchanged for the $29 we were owed......

I dont umpire for free, but I dont take what I'm not due either.......

Rita C Fri Oct 12, 2007 10:27am

Thank you
 
I wanted to know the "industry standard" before contacting him. I had reported to him that day that I only did one game.

The check may have been made out in advance as he contacted me from Florida.

I have a double header scheduled for this coming Sunday. We can probably square it with the check from that game.

Rita

PeteBooth Fri Oct 12, 2007 10:56am

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rita C
I was scheduled to work a doubleheader on Sunday. It rained so hard that we only got in about 2 innings.

Today I received a check for both games. Is this the standard? I would have expected only payment for the one game.

Rita


Rita for the most part our association does not have this problem because we are paid UP FRONT at the plate meeting. We had too many problems with the old adage "checks in the mail" so with the exception of some tournaments we do we get our money up front before one pitch is thrown. That way we do not have to "chase" the teams for money etc. especially if you make a controversial call or a call they do not like.

If we have a Double Dip we get paid the one game FEE first. If the game is cancelled due to whether we do not get paid for the second game, however, if the game gets cancelled because the team does not have enough players for the second game then we get paid a full game FEE.

"Mother Nature" is one thing a team not being able to field players is another.

I would contact my assignor FIRST if I got paid for a game I didn't do.

Pete Booth

fitump56 Fri Oct 12, 2007 11:00am

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Originally Posted by GarthB
Yes. It was "too much."

Personally, I would contact whoever issued the check prior to cashing it and inform them that you worked only one game. They will either re-issue a check or tell you to keep the one you have. Let them make the decision.

How the Sam Heck do you know that "it's too much"? Itks not for us in the same sitch, we get pd by assignment not innings or good weathwer. Mebbe Rita belongs to a real ump org that demands as much from its membersas it gets for their umpires.

bobbybanaduck Fri Oct 12, 2007 02:09pm

if you feel bad about keeping it, you can send the extra to me.

JRutledge Fri Oct 12, 2007 02:28pm

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Originally Posted by Rita C
I was scheduled to work a doubleheader on Sunday. It rained so hard that we only got in about 2 innings.

Today I received a check for both games. Is this the standard? I would have expected only payment for the one game.

Rita

You are paid for the commitment, not the game itself. You have no control over the weather or other factors that might not complete the games. This is the way it should be done and the way it is done in many circles. This would be no different if you show up to the game and ejections take place because of some action by a team. You are not responsible for the result.

Peace

gordon30307 Sat Oct 13, 2007 09:16am

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Originally Posted by piaa_ump
I'd make a call to the league and find out what the policy is.......I would attempt to return the one check.....if they dont accept it fine, but its an effort that will ensure good relationships....

This summer I had a game that we were paid in full and in advance of the first pitch......3 innings later we were rained out.....In this league we get $20for showing up and 3 an inning if not a complete game. My partner and I went to the official and gave back our $45 dollar fee to be exchanged for the $29 we were owed......

I dont umpire for free, but I dont take what I'm not due either.......

A contract is a contract. That being said this is a bad one. In my neck of the woods once one pitch is thrown and the heavens open up we get paid for the full game. Pitch not thrown and we are there we get a traveling fee typically $20 or $25. Your association needs to make some changes.


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