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Tim C Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:00pm

Ok,
 
In the Cleveland game Mark Wegner, with stop watch, called TWO balls for Bettincourt taking more than 20 seconds to pitch:

Comments?

Regards,

Rich Ives Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:09pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim C
In the Cleveland game Mark Wegner, with stop watch, called TWO balls for Bettincourt taking more than 20 seconds to pitch:

Comments?

Regards,


Yes.

The new revised rule says 12 seconds so he blew it by a lot.:D

TussAgee11 Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:44pm

good to know the 2nd base ump is looking at a stopwatch and not at other potential happenings (balks, pickoffs, etc). Although unlikely to get caught not looking at the ball in a MLB game.

Perhaps MLB notfied the crew that the Indians were averaging the longest time of games in the league, or close to it (can't find stats anywhere, just speculating on why Wegner would do this).

Editted 2 seconds later:

I realize that the 12 second rule is only in effect when no runners are on. So scratch off the pickoff part of my arguement. Still, licking the hand is called more than 12 seconds rule is.

Rcichon Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:51pm

Another use of the stopwatch. I guess it's not just used for TV Commercial timing.
:D

fitump56 Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:59pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim C
In the Cleveland game Mark Wegner, with stop watch, called TWO balls for Bettincourt taking more than 20 seconds to pitch:

Comments?

Regards,

MLB wants to shorten games, this is one way they do it.

mrm21711 Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:29am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim C
In the Cleveland game Mark Wegner, with stop watch, called TWO balls for Bettincourt taking more than 20 seconds to pitch:

Comments?

Regards,

Doesnt matter but it was Eddings

Tim C Wed Jul 04, 2007 09:12am

Yelp!
 
Thanks for the TWO corrections.

12 Seconds
Eddings

Got it.

And I wasn't even drinkin'.

Hopefully the "King of Blather" will not add yet another group of endless posts to this thread.

Regards,

waltjp Wed Jul 04, 2007 09:33am

Football officials use a timer attached to their belt to time the durations of timeouts and play-clock violations. The box vibrates when time has expired. Maybe it's time for baseball to look into a similar device. Call it the BalkBox® :rolleyes:

The BalkBox® is a registered trademark of ME.

bob jenkins Wed Jul 04, 2007 09:37am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim C
In the Cleveland game Mark Wegner, with stop watch, called TWO balls for Bettincourt taking more than 20 seconds to pitch:

Comments?

Regards,

It would be nice if this were called more frequently so players at "our level" would be more aware of it and then we could call it without receiving a rasher of s*** and games would move faster.

Applies also to the batter's box rule (and I know MiLB umps have been instructed to enforce this)

mbyron Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:15am

1. I have never seen this rule enforced in MLB, whether 20 seconds or 12.
2. Betancourt is sloooooow. Even this Indians fan can admit that.

The Indians' announcers have learned how to wait until he's actually set before announcing "the set, and the pitch," or there's an ungainly pause in the middle!

greymule Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:18pm

I love baseball, but the pace of MLB games today is murderous. I find myself working in my office while the TV plays the living room. If things start happening, I go watch.

MLB needs a lot more than a 12-second clock. How they're filling the parks, I don't know. And it's not just MLB: last Saturday, my partner complained to me about the 3-hour, 40-minute regulation Legion game he had endured the night before.

I know you can't really compare baseball today with baseball 100 years ago, but . . .

In the 29 games of the first 5 World Series (1903, 1905-1908), the average time of game was 1:52. A half inning—time between third outs—took on average 6 minutes and 17 seconds. (Seems like it takes that long between innings today.) The 29 games saw a total of 15 relief pitchers.

The 4 games of the 2005 World Series averaged 3:51. A half inning took on average 11 minutes, 25 seconds. Game 3 (14 innings) took 5 hours, 41 minutes. The White Sox and Astros used 15 relief pitchers in game 3, and 31 in the 4 games.

mbyron Wed Jul 04, 2007 09:38pm

Fans think they want a lot of scoring, without realizing that base runners lengthen the game. Baseball is a business, so the customer is always right...

Jim Porter Wed Jul 04, 2007 11:17pm

Here's video of the two incidents. The umpires had issued a warning about the pitcher taking too much time during Magglio Ordonez's at-bat just prior to the first incident. The warning was explained to manager Eric Wedge.

http://menotomyjournal.com/mlbvids/eddings1.wmv
http://menotomyjournal.com/mlbvids/eddings2.wmv

fitump56 Thu Jul 05, 2007 03:30am

Quote:

Originally Posted by greymule
I love baseball, but the pace of MLB games today is murderous. I find myself working in my office while the TV plays the living room. If things start happening, I go watch.

MLB needs a lot more than a 12-second clock. How they're filling the parks, I don't know..

Disneyland. most MLB parks are entertainment venues with basball as a side show.

Jurassic Referee Thu Jul 05, 2007 07:28am

Apparently MLB issues a list to their umpiring staff on what pitchers, hitters, etc. are delaying the game. Makes sense.

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a...707050386/1048


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