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Hidden ball trick (it finally worked)
In the 35 years I have been involved in baseball, I had never seen the hidden ball trick work, until last night.
Junior baseball (under 21), I was the plate umpire and my partner thankfully was on top of the play. R3 was in a rundown between 3rd and home and was tagged out by the catcher. R2 made it to 3rd base during the rundown. After the out, the catcher flipped the ball to the F5 instead of F1 and no one on the offense noticed it. As the pitcher was walking around the mound, R3 (formally R2) left 3B and was tagged out by F5. My partner was on top of it and called him out. The manager argued a bit; that time was called (it was not) and that the pitcher had stepped on the slab (he had not). That was the only highlight of the defensive team last night as they lost 10-0 with the oppsing pitcher tossing a five inning no-hitter. |
Doesn't the pitcher have to be off the dirt of the mound? Not just off the rubber?
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OBR - F1 can not be astride or on the rubber FED - F1 cannot be within 5 feet of the rubber (may as well say off the dirt) NCAA - F1 cannot be on the dirt of the mound with either foot. |
We use OBR
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Jay... I had the same thing happen in a Bronco tournament last weekend. Bottom of the 7th with the score tied. Home team hits a lead off double. I was PU. BU calls out the runner as I'm returning to the plate. SS had the ball and tagged the runner when he stepped off. BU was right on top of it.
The manage tried to pull the same stunts. First he said that he called time. I told him that I call time, he request time. Of course he said he requested time. I told him he didn't. Yea right skip, how often does an offensive manager ask for time on a stand up double? Then he tried to tell me the pitcher was on the mound. I told him he has to be standing on or astride the rubber without the ball and if he did it was a balk. I told him no balk occurred, the play stands. Play ball. They won the game three hits later. Those rats all think alike. |
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Completely unambiguous, isn't this? :D |
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J/R says "on or astride" is a balk, followed by the sentence you used (paraphrased) "it's not necessarily a balk if the pitcher is on the dirt". The BRD only lists "on or astride". Absent any "close enough" documentation, I can't see anything but "on or astride" being a balk. |
It's the definition of "astride" that has led to confusion among many. Is it to be taken literally? Is its definition rather broad? That is the $64,000 question, one that was addressed at school by Mssrs. Jaksa and Roder themselves. However, it still seems a bit vague in the J/R book.
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He finishes by saying. “High School and College interpretations vary on this enforcement. Many amateur leagues consider it a violation if the pitcher is on the dirt when the hidden ball trick is being executed. Check with your local association” Best money I have spent was on this DVD. You can cue it up to any balk scenario you need. |
I don't think the word "astride" is open to interpretation. It literally means "straddling."
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Personally, I think the wording should be changed to say "straddling." Regardless, at school a long 18 years ago the explanation was, shall I say, not totally clear.
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1. Pro umpires can go an entire career without seeing the hidden ball trick; and 2. 18 years is a long time. |
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R3 and F5 has the ball. F1 walks up on the mound and stands iwith his pivot foot in front of but about 4" from the rubber. He has done nothing to simulate his pitching motion. |
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