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SAump Tue Jun 19, 2007 01:57pm

FED Rules Online
 
Would it hurt the NFHS organization to post a copy of their rules online?
Would it be difficult? What are the reasons for not posting a copy?
It may increase the online sales of the NFHS rule book.
It would drive traffic to the NFHS website.
The NCAA has an online adobe.pdf version.
The NCAA updates the rulebook each year.
What is the reason for the NFHS holdup?

Rich Ives Tue Jun 19, 2007 02:06pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAump
Would it hurt the NFHS organization to post a copy of their rules online?
Would it be difficult? What are the reasons for not posting a copy?
It may increase the online sales of the NFHS rule book.
It would drive traffic to the NFHS website.
The NCAA has an online adobe.pdf version.
The NCAA updates the rulebook each year.
What is the reason for the NFHS holdup?

They are on-line for members.

bob jenkins Tue Jun 19, 2007 02:36pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAump
Would it hurt the NFHS organization to post a copy of their rules online?
Would it be difficult? What are the reasons for not posting a copy?
It may increase the online sales of the NFHS rule book.
It would drive traffic to the NFHS website.
The NCAA has an online adobe.pdf version.
The NCAA updates the rulebook each year.
What is the reason for the NFHS holdup?

I suspect that the percentage of revenue the NFHS derives from rules books sales is far greater than the percentage of revenue the NCAA derives from such sales.

Tim C Tue Jun 19, 2007 02:52pm

Against My Better . . .
 
Judgment:

The NFHS does not hold a National Championship. Because of this they have only a few revenue streams. The selling of Rules Books, Case Books and Manuals makes a very important part of their funding.

I doubt really if the cost of an NFHS Rules Book, individually, stops umpires from working under that code, so be it.

Regards,

radwaste50 Tue Jun 19, 2007 05:25pm

nfhs rules
 
as stated above thy are online if you got the books your probably a member
though if i remember correctly TASO didn't really share this information readily
Get your member number from TASO or officials quarterly magazine and you can logon and get the rules

UMP25 Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:01pm

FWIW, Williamsport (Little League Baseball Inc.) doesn't have its books online, either. Furthermore, umpires aren't even allowed to purchase them directly. One has to go through a league president or district/regional administrator.

Rich Ives Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:37pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by UMP25
FWIW, Williamsport (Little League Baseball Inc.) doesn't have its books online, either. Furthermore, umpires aren't even allowed to purchase them directly. One has to go through a league president or district/regional administrator.


All you need to know is your league ID number.

UMP25 Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:24am

Except that umpires don't have a league per se, unless they're officials who are part of the in-house league, in which case the league itself provides the books.

Williamsport's books are the toughest to acquire of all the baseball rule books out there.

Publius Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:31am

Quote:

Originally Posted by UMP25
Except that umpires don't have a league per se, unless they're officials who are part of the in-house league, in which case the league itself provides the books.

Williamsport's books are the toughest to acquire of all the baseball rule books out there.

Wow. There is a correlation between the ease with which one can obtain a copy of the official playing rules for various codes (OBR, NCAA, NFHS, LL), and the general level of competence of umpires working under those codes.

Who woulda thought?

MajorDave Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:05pm

NFHS Rules Online-2006 Baseball Rules/Casebook
 
I went to the NFHS website and tried to log in. It asked me my name and e-mail address. It had a record for me at my address but no e-mail associated with my account. I gave my e-mail address and my NFHS number from the address area of my most recent Official's Quarterly Magazine (the numbers directly above your name-mine is 7 digits long) and I then got an e-mail with log in instructions including my log in ID and a password-both assigned from NFHS. I went to the members only online publications link and they have a list of publications available for members. Unfortunately they have 2006 Baseball not 2007 rules. There are full text links by rule number in both casebook and rule book. There is a search feature but it did not work very well, in my opinion. I tried generic terms like pitcher and balk. Lots of hits. I tried "pitcher goes to mouth", "illegal substance", "substance on ball" and got a nothing found for each. The casebook gives the cases reported for each rule in rule number order and it links you to the rule book for the actual rule referred to in the case. Not great but okay. In case anyone who had not used it before wanted to know. This thread made me aware of this feature of NFHS membership. Thanks for the heads up.

fitump56 Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:41pm

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Originally Posted by SAump
Would it hurt the NFHS organization to post a copy of their rules online?

Only in their pocketbook.
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Would it be difficult? What are the reasons for not posting a copy?
No and they want you to buy it.
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It may increase the online sales of the NFHS rule book.
Probably hurt sales, copy and paste, ya' know.
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It would drive traffic to the NFHS website.
Non paying traffic for websites = increased costs.
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The NCAA has an online adobe.pdf version.
The NCAA updates the rulebook each year.
What is the reason for the NFHS holdup?
Don't know but I would love to see their audited financials to determine what the income-expense issue is.


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