CraigD,

Apparently, you handled it better than plate umpire in the Padres/Cubs game yesterday who just sat on his thumbs after Chris Young hit Derek Lee.

Yes, Mark Everett should have escorted Lee all the way to first base, and not allowed him to talk smack to Young, who did not intentionally hit him. I mean, why would Lee think Young would want to hit him when Young was pitching a perfect game with a 2-2 count on him?

You could tell by Young's initial reaction that he was upset with himself for hitting Lee. Then Lee was allowed to walk out toward Young and say something. Young isn't going to back down, and then got Sunday punched by Lee. Then Young gets tossed for defending himself. That whole thing could have been prevented by the umpires, but they sat back and let it happen.

Then on top of that, they throw Jake Peavy out for tackling Lee to prevent him from doing any more damage, but allow Zambrano to stay in the game after punching several people, and going berserk until someone corralled him.

Gerry Davis and his crew handled the situation miserably.

This post proves beyond a doubt that you are certifiably nuts.

Peavy was ejected for tackling Lee to keep him from throwing more punches. He was just standing up for his buddy. I didn't say Peavy should not have been run, just that Zambrano was a worse offender, and he should have been dumped as well.

Lee threw a cheap sucker punch at Young. Poor Lee? What are you talking about?:confused: Yeah, he took off running away as soon as he realized he was about to get his butt kicked.

80% of the players didn't belong on the field? It was a BENCH CLEARING BRAWL! I don't know how many you have seen in your born days, but they usually involve 100% of the players, the managers, coaches, bat boys, and ball girls (:) I wish!).

Oh, and attention all Cubs fans:

If an elderly couple (or anyone else for that matter) does not wish to participate in your silly little ritual of throwing back opponents home run balls, do not resort to assaulting them, harassing them, or knocking their caps off their heads. The behavior exhibited by that dumb blond twit in the bleachers today is just typical of the boorish behavior I have witnessed over the years from pasty-faced Cub fans here at Padres games.

Try to understand that the rest of the sporting world thinks your little tradition of throwing back a perfectly good souvenir is stupid and childish.

End of rant.

Can't blame umpire
 

States that F2 distracted U1 after HBP and both were surprised to see punches.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports...s17padres.html
More of the same: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=270616116

Melee took the focus off great pitching and great baseball. :)
Happy to read the strangler was ejected too. :p
Now there we have possible trade bait for Boston. ;)

No, can't blame the umpires ever, huh SA? The only reason there were any punches was Derrick Lee. Period.

If I may play Mr. Positive Side
 

Awareness is good if things do "head south" on their own. However, most baseball things only happen by mere coincidence. Sometimes, having this situation in your mind may exagerate an innocent event that may take place during the game. That would be bad. I would suggest that you try to put it behind you and not even mention it anymore.

If you go looking for anything to escalate before it happens, you may end up putting yourself in a very awkward postion. The individuals have already dealt with the league president and I am sure that the real "players" want to put this bad situation behind them ASAP and enjoy some good baseball, again.

Let me see if I understand this correctly.

The title of this thread is Critique Please

CraigD explains in pretty good detail a situation he had in an adult league game. Seemingly, he would like to be critiqued on the way he handled the situation.

Many critiques are given, and most are along the lines of, "You should have warned or ejected soon. You let the situation go too far."

Then CraigD defends his actions to the nth degree.

Me thinks he wanted verification, not an honest critique. I've seen that kind of umpire before. :rolleyes:

A player coming on the field with a deadly weapon and the intent to use it should be removed from the game by the police, whether the game took place in the States, Isreal, or on one of the moons of Saturn.

I don't care where the guy got hit in the second game. Heck, I don't even care if he steps into it. I'm warning both teams and tossing the next pitcher to hit someone on general principles.

Throwing at his head and then Young running his mouth about it had nothing to do with Lee going off now did it.......... Lee wouldn't have been able to throw a punch if Young hadn't approached him on the foul line. Blame on this one is a two way street. Young should have kept his *** near the mound and bit his toungue!


Tim.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't you the one saying Lilly intentionally hit Renteria? He also had a perfect game going.

Maybe because Peavy publicly announced that if he was pitching he would retaliate and then poof there he was tackling Lee. Hard to make the argument that he was a peacemaker.

Wow...were you actually watching the game? I was.

First, Young did not "throw at his head." The ball barely grazed him, and it was shoulder height.

Secondly, Young, for the hundredth time, WAS NOT THROWING AT LEE. He was working on a perfect game at the time with two strikes on Lee. He is not intentionally hitting a batter with a 2-2 count in a 0-0 ball game.

Thirdly, Derrick Lee left the running lane, and turned left toward the mound. What was Young supposed to do, get punked by Lee? Wait at the mound like a little sissy? No, he's going to meet Lee half way. Lee was definitely the aggressor in this action. Young was merely reacting to Lee's actions. What was he supposed to do, allow Lee to mouth off without retaliation?

Bud Black sure wanted to know why Chris Young was being ejected. He didn't even get in a decent punch, while Carlos Zambrano was running around taking shots at anyone within reach before a teammate intervened. Where was Zambrano's ejection? Our starter gets run, but the Cubbie guy gets to keep playing? Not very equitable, is it?

Well, it's probably a good thing Zambrano was allowed to continue, so he could give up the game winning home run. That was sweet.

Two outs in the first inning and hits the third batter and it ruined the perfect game? Wow Don, that is really lame.

I did not ever say that 1) Peavy was acting as peacemaker, or 2) that Peavy should not have been ejected, or 3) that he did not tackle Lee. I said that he tackled Lee to prevent Lee from doing any more damage than he already had.

Duh, acting to prevent more damage would be the role of a peacemaker.

As for Zambrano, he apparently was smart enough to stay out of the sightline of the umps.

If I was a pitcher that just put a 90mph fastball an inch away from a mans chin on accident I'd be a bit more humble, might even say sorry. If I'd just retaliated I'd be cocky and tell Lee to get his ### to first and shut-up.
I think Young showed everyone what his intentions were.

I don't fault him for retaliating, but it should have been Soriano, not Lee, but then even the Padre faithful would have had a hard time denying the intent.

If you are talking about Ted Lilly's ejection by Ron Wolf, it was in the first inning:

From FOXSports:

Lilly, who was ejected after two-thirds of an inning in his previous start against Atlanta for hitting Edgar Renteria with a pitch,

Again, this was not retaliation for Soriano's little home run dance the day before. If this were the case, it would have 1) happened the first time through the batting order, and 2) been Soriano, not Lee.

This was a pitch that got away from Young. It was meant to be inside, but not hit Lee. Like I said, the pitch just grazed him. At first glance it appeared to have hit the bat, not Lee. Chris Young's immediate reaction was one of disgust with himself for hitting the batter.

Look at the replay. It was either an Oscar winning performance or a genuine reaction, and it was clear that Young was mad at himself. It wasn't until Lee walked toward the mound and spouted off did Young understandably say something back to Lee. He shouldn't have to apologize (when do they ever do that?:confused: ) Had Lee done what he was supposed to do, which is go directly to first base, then none of what happened would have.