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JR12 Mon Jun 04, 2007 08:19pm

Should I have tossed him?
 
In a high school age summer game I'm doing the plate. The catcher asks me if the batter is too far back in the box(no batters box) I use the batter's bat, to measure and draw a back line with my foot.
The 1b coach yells down from the coaches box "why dont you draw a line on his chest". I stare at him 5-10 sec (mask on) I later thought I should have sent him home. Any other thoughts???

LakeErieUmp Mon Jun 04, 2007 08:29pm

I think the 1B coach is a buffoon - and not very funny. Although that's probably not the "thoughts" you were looking for.

David B Mon Jun 04, 2007 09:51pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JR12
In a high school age summer game I'm doing the plate. The catcher asks me if the batter is too far back in the box(no batters box) I use the batter's bat, to measure and draw a back line with my foot.
The 1b coach yells down from the coaches box "why dont you draw a line on his chest". I stare at him 5-10 sec (mask on) I later thought I should have sent him home. Any other thoughts???

No need to toss him, but I would let the head coach know that anything else out of his idiot asst. will be his last. (We don't talk to asst. coaches, and don't stare at them either, remember they don't exist)

Thanks
David

David B Mon Jun 04, 2007 09:51pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JR12
In a high school age summer game I'm doing the plate. The catcher asks me if the batter is too far back in the box(no batters box) I use the batter's bat, to measure and draw a back line with my foot.
The 1b coach yells down from the coaches box "why dont you draw a line on his chest". I stare at him 5-10 sec (mask on) I later thought I should have sent him home. Any other thoughts???

No need to toss him, but I would let the head coach know that anything else out of his idiot asst. will be his last. (We don't talk to asst. coaches, and don't stare at them either, remember they don't exist)

Thanks
David

johnnyg08 Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:01pm

I agree to probably not toss him for this...I would phrase your warning a little differently...something to the effect of "you will not argue balls and strikes anymore" and if you're going to issue the warning, be prepared to eject the next time it's done...otherwise, if you're not prepared to eject...then it's best to ignore the 1B rat.

DG Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:24pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JR12
In a high school age summer game I'm doing the plate. The catcher asks me if the batter is too far back in the box(no batters box) I use the batter's bat, to measure and draw a back line with my foot.
The 1b coach yells down from the coaches box "why dont you draw a line on his chest". I stare at him 5-10 sec (mask on) I later thought I should have sent him home. Any other thoughts???

Somewhere on the front of his body, halfway between his shoulders and belt is a line already, and I would be sure to use it, but I wouldn't pay him any attention, but I agree with others here that the manager should be advised...

I also wouldn't draw a line for the back of the box, I would just answer the question with a NO.

jimpiano Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:45pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JR12
In a high school age summer game I'm doing the plate. The catcher asks me if the batter is too far back in the box(no batters box) I use the batter's bat, to measure and draw a back line with my foot.
The 1b coach yells down from the coaches box "why dont you draw a line on his chest". I stare at him 5-10 sec (mask on) I later thought I should have sent him home. Any other thoughts???

Any umpire that "measures" anything deserves to be shot.

JR12 Tue Jun 05, 2007 07:06am

So, if someone tries to cheat by standing out of the box, what next Mr. Umpire shooter?

etn_ump Tue Jun 05, 2007 07:11am

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Originally Posted by JR12
So, if someone tries to cheat by standing out of the box, what next Mr. Umpire shooter?

Tell the batter to move forward. Pretty simple.

As far as the asst.'s statement, it depends on how many games I've done on this day. If it's my 2nd or 3rd game of the day, if it's really hot, he's done. If not, he's on ignore.

Rcichon Tue Jun 05, 2007 08:18am

Quote:

Originally Posted by JR12
In a high school age summer game I'm doing the plate. The catcher asks me if the batter is too far back in the box(no batters box) I use the batter's bat, to measure and draw a back line with my foot.
The 1b coach yells down from the coaches box "why dont you draw a line on his chest". I stare at him 5-10 sec (mask on) I later thought I should have sent him home. Any other thoughts???

No not yet. I'd warn his Manager though.

mcrowder Tue Jun 05, 2007 08:21am

I think I'd have ignored him... Then again, I don't think this would ever happen to me, as there's NO WAY I would be drawing a line during the game. My answer to the catcher would simply have been, "No."

johnnyg08 Tue Jun 05, 2007 09:29am

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Originally Posted by mcrowder
I think I'd have ignored him... Then again, I don't think this would ever happen to me, as there's NO WAY I would be drawing a line during the game. My answer to the catcher would simply have been, "No."

That's a good point too.

RPatrino Tue Jun 05, 2007 02:37pm

Why do you care how far back the batter is standing? Tell the catcher, NO.

I assume that the 1b rat was grousing about your zone? If this was his first remark then I would not respond to it, but I would let him know I heard it by staring a hole through his hollow head.

A second remark would earn him a one way ticket to the parking lot.

LakeErieUmp Tue Jun 05, 2007 08:32pm

You know what one of my favorite things about non-Fed games is? Depending on the league I can direct said mouthy coach beyond the parking lot!

SanDiegoSteve Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:41pm

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Originally Posted by jimpiano
Any umpire that "measures" anything deserves to be shot.

While I don't condone its usage or practice (or the fancy jk word "praxis," but I digress), I still don't think that line drawing by the umpire is a capital offense, although legislation may be pending that I don't know about.


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