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sixlehs Fri May 04, 2007 05:02pm

1 pitcher every inning
 
In a highschool game the home team pitcher pitches the first inning and at the bottom of the first the score is 1 to 0 homes favor. Then the home team coach has a new pitcher pitch 1 inning each until the end of the game
(7 innings 7 pitchers) the game ends 1 to 0 home wins, which pitcher gets the win?

TwoBits Fri May 04, 2007 05:16pm

FED 9-6-b-2: If the starting pitcher is removed before having pitched four or more innings and his team is ahead, the official scorer shall determine the winning pitcher to be the relief pitcher who has been the most effective.

So there's no clear cut answer in your scenario, except, according to the rule, it will not go to the starting pitcher.

UmpJM Fri May 04, 2007 05:19pm

sixlehs,

The relief pitcher who, in the official scorer's sole judgement, did the best job of pitching to maintain the lead.

The only one who can't get the win is the starter.

JM

DG Fri May 04, 2007 07:01pm

Each reliever came in with a 1 run lead and left with a 1 run lead. Which pitched the best to keep the lead? If one struck out the side and another walked a batter with 2 out but struck out the side otherwise, the one that struck out the side with no walks wins?

What if the starter struck out the side in his turn and all the other relievers had at least one base runner. Starter is excluded as a potential winner?

Mark Dexter Fri May 04, 2007 07:26pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by DG
Each reliever came in with a 1 run lead and left with a 1 run lead. Which pitched the best to keep the lead? If one struck out the side and another walked a batter with 2 out but struck out the side otherwise, the one that struck out the side with no walks wins?

What if the starter struck out the side in his turn and all the other relievers had at least one base runner. Starter is excluded as a potential winner?

That's why the official scorer gets paid the big bucks.

LilLeaguer Fri May 04, 2007 08:32pm

Thanks for the laugh
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Dexter
That's why the official scorer gets paid the big bucks.

I worked for the atheletic department at my Div III college in the '80s. I sometimes assisted the official scorer (another student) at the basketball games, and we were each paid normal student work wages for the time, $5/hr.

Who typically is the official scorer at a FED game?

RPatrino Fri May 04, 2007 08:39pm

And the relevance of this question is???

LMan Fri May 04, 2007 10:43pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwoBits

So there's no clear cut answer in your scenario, except, according to the rule, it will not go to the starting pitcher.


Greeeeeaaat, now you'll set him off again.


more notes to the Rules Committee! No justice, no peace!

BoomerSooner Sat May 05, 2007 12:25am

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoachJM
sixlehs,

The relief pitcher who, in the official scorer's sole judgement, did the best job of pitching to maintain the lead.

The only one who can't get the win is the starter.

JM

You are almost completely correct Coach. The last pitcher of the game should be credited with a save. Since by rule a pitcher cannot be credited with a win and a save in the same game, the starting and finishing pitcher cannot get the win.

RPatrino Sat May 05, 2007 12:29am

I suppose I could use this when I become a professional scorekeeper. Until then its just useless poop. LOL

mcrowder Sat May 05, 2007 09:16am

Being a fill-in scorekeeper, I think that if every pitcher was exactly or nearly exactly the same, the 1st relief pitcher would be the guy I would give the win to. But this one is not an easy one... normally in a weird sitch like this, SOMEONE pitches 3-4 innings or so, and is the obvious deserver of the win.

All that is sure here is ... it can't be the starter, and it is very unlikely to be the last pitcher.

How many high schools out there have 9 pitchers capable of shutting down the opponent? :)

jicecone Sat May 05, 2007 09:46am

This is simple, the umpire that is wearing the $9.99 equipment, purchased on ebay, will make the final decision here.

What a deal!

tjones1 Sat May 05, 2007 10:34am

Quote:

Originally Posted by LilLeaguer
Who typically is the official scorer at a FED game?

Normally, in my area if one of the coaches isn't doing it, then it's a volunteer from the stands.

umpduck11 Sat May 05, 2007 06:46pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by sixlehs
In a highschool game the home team pitcher pitches the first inning and at the bottom of the first the score is 1 to 0 homes favor. Then the home team coach has a new pitcher pitch 1 inning each until the end of the game
(7 innings 7 pitchers) the game ends 1 to 0 home wins, which pitcher gets the win?

Could it possibly be the pitcher of record when the run is scored ???

UmpJM Sat May 05, 2007 06:52pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoomerSooner
You are almost completely correct Coach. The last pitcher of the game should be credited with a save. Since by rule a pitcher cannot be credited with a win and a save in the same game, the starting and finishing pitcher cannot get the win.

BoomerSooner,

I stand corrected. Nice catch.

UmpDuck,

No. Under FED rules, the starting pitcher must pitch at least 4 innings to be credited with the win. Since the "go ahead" run was scored while the starting pitcher was the pitcher of record, and he only pitched one inning, he cannot be credited with the win.

JM

umpduck11 Sat May 05, 2007 06:56pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoachJM
UmpDuck,

No. Under FED rules, the starting pitcher must pitch at least 4 innings to be credited with the win. Since the "go ahead" run was scored while the starting pitcher was the pitcher of record, and he only pitched one inning, he cannot be credited with the win.

JM

After re-reading the OP, I see that I missed the fact that it was a FED game.
Thank you. :o

BoomerSooner Sat May 05, 2007 11:41pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by umpduck11
After re-reading the OP, I see that I missed the fact that it was a FED game.
Thank you. :o

The same general concept would apply to pretty much all other rulesets that I'm readily knowledgeable about. I've done a fair deal of scoring (keeps me sharp when watching MLB and minor league games), and I know MLB scoring rules are essentially the same with the exception that the SP must work at least 5 complete innings. Most score sets use 5 IP in a 9 inning game or 4 IP for a 7 inning game (the only reason I don't say all, is I'm not familiar with LL).


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