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GarthB Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:48am

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Originally Posted by jkumpire
They taught us just to call the balk and move 'em along. But since I never got a pro job, esp. in HS Baseball I always tell kids what they did.

My call was last night: "THAT"S A BALK (Pointing at F1) TIME! (Hands UP) NO STEP TO 1B (pointing R1 to 2B)."

My partner did nothing, of course, but he is a 2nd year guy who mostly does SB. He did a decent job for a newbie.


In FED the balk kills the play. "Time, that's a balk,"

In OBR the balk does not kill the play. "That's a balk...Time, that's a balk,"

LMan Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:54am

I always say, "Thats a balk, TIME" in FED so that when I change gears to OBR in the summer, the call stays consistent (in my addled mind).

justanotherblue Tue Apr 17, 2007 11:00am

I had a very simular play last year in a Legion tourney. LH F1, called the balk, coach wanted to argue the call, it was simple. Coach, he didn't step toward the base. Coach what do you mean. ..It's easy coach he didn't have any distance or direction toward the base, that's a balk. After I repeated he had no distance or direction toward the base several times, the light went on. Coach commented, that must be important, you said that several times! I had a hard time putting my mask on with roar of laughter within my mind! Never had to use the field lights his light went on so brightly! :D

tmp44 Tue Apr 17, 2007 11:08am

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Originally Posted by BigTex
"Skip, he stepped more toward home than he did to first.....and tell your assistant to gather his $hit and go sit on the bus."

Seriously?

radwaste50 Tue Apr 17, 2007 11:17am

The assistant
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tmp44
Seriously?

Made it personal and injected himself into a discussion with the Manager why should he stay?

FTVMartin Tue Apr 17, 2007 11:57am

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Originally Posted by GarthB
3. What I do: (FED) "TIME! That's a balk...didn't step to the bag...You, second base."

Perfect handling. Explain as you make the call and then nobody should question you.

Last night I had runners at 2nd & 3rd. Pitcher didn't stop. "Dead Ball! That's a balk! He never stopped! You score, you go to third!"

BigTex Tue Apr 17, 2007 12:55pm

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Originally Posted by jkumpire

(Short aside to tell the asst. coach to get in the dugout and not put his .02 in.)

....one warning


Quote:

Originally Posted by jkumpire
Shoot, his asst. coach yelled out that "It was the BU's call, you don't even know who is supposed to call the balk right."

....see ya!


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Originally Posted by tmp44
Seriously?


Yes.

3appleshigh Tue Apr 17, 2007 01:46pm

was there a funeral for the Dead Ball.

POOR BALL, I liked that ball and now He's DEAD!
OH the HUMANITY.

Call Time, don't call DEAD BALL. it just sounds bad.

tiger49 Tue Apr 17, 2007 01:59pm

"Blue, explain to me why he balked."

"I already did!"

If he continues dump him. Especially well after the play.

DG Tue Apr 17, 2007 07:15pm

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Originally Posted by CoachJM
I'm sure this varies from one area to the next, but I have heard of cases where getting a bad evaluation from certain coaches can actually improve one's chances of getting post-season assignments.

I expect my assignor knows which coaches are full of crap and who are legit. A fairly new coach who complains every 2 or 3 games is full of crap. A veteran coach who complains every 2 or 3 years probably has a legit complaint.

In our pre-season clinics there are always a half dozen coaches mentioned for the new umpires, to wit, they rarely complain and if they do they will do it calmly, and you probably blew it, so listen and learn.

tmp44 Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:15am

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Originally Posted by radwaste50
Made it personal and injected himself into a discussion with the Manager why should he stay?

Where in the OP does it say that the assistant got personal w/ the blue? Just says he wanted to put his 2 cents in...doesn't smell like an ejection to me....

GarthB Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:33am

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Originally Posted by tmp44
Where in the OP does it say that the assistant got personal w/ the blue? Just says he wanted to put his 2 cents in...doesn't smell like an ejection to me....

According to the OP:

Shoot, his asst. coach yelled out that "It was the BU's call, you don't even know who is supposed to call the balk right."

Coming after the first warning....gone bozo.

Rich Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:36am

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Originally Posted by tmp44
Where in the OP does it say that the assistant got personal w/ the blue? Just says he wanted to put his 2 cents in...doesn't smell like an ejection to me....

Assistants are hired to say "hummm, baby" and "turn left." He can put his 2 cents in anytime, but that will likely yield him a comfy seat on the bus.

Rich Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:37am

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Originally Posted by tmp44
Where in the OP does it say that the assistant got personal w/ the blue? Just says he wanted to put his 2 cents in...doesn't smell like an ejection to me....

With the "blue?"

Look at what I started. My only point was I've never heard another umpire refer to umpires as "blue." It sounds goofy. I don't like it personally, but it doesn't make me lose sleep. I also feel the same way about people that say I am an "ump."

And I also find "blue" funny considering I haven't worn anything but black all season.

GarthB Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:40am

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Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser
With the "blue?"

Must be a coach.

I haven't worn anything blue in high school ball for three years. I'm still waiting for someone to call me "black."


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