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Justme Thu Apr 12, 2007 09:11am

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Originally Posted by BigGuy
I agree with the above - in addition in order to umpire a game, it's mandatory to be in uniform and I can understand the fill-in. However, for a pre-scheduled assignment, an umpire is not present unless properly in uniform. In Illinois, if you're not wearing the IHSA patch some coaches would turn you in for uniform violation and they would be correct. Part of being an umpire is looking like one and that means being in the proper attire.


It's just MHO but physical restraint of another individual is not called for in this type of situation. It was only a HS baseball game not a life-or-death situation. Unless of course you enjoy lawsuits. Personally I give my attorney enough money to handle business things without adding thousands to fight a lawsuit.

Also I never take it upon myself to change my assignors assignments, if I did I would be working only the top teams each day. I know for a fact that both coaches and one AD called to complain about my partner. Also, I wont work with him again.

It appears that I, and my reputation, have survived working with a "dufus" partner. Yesterdays varsity game went fine (only 1:40) with no one even being aware that the day before I worked with an embarrassing partner and I truely believe that todays HS and Adult League games will not be impacted adversely either. So bottom line I'm glad that I didn't kick his a$$ and send him home :) I left it to the noble leaders of my association take care of if their strange and mysterious way.

BigTex Thu Apr 12, 2007 09:29am

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve
Physical restraint, if necessary. He is not working on my ball field. I could see it if he was called to come fill in, and didn't have his uniform. That would be a different story. I've filled in for no-show umpires while I had no uniform or gear with me. But to "forget" to bring your uniform? Never happened to me in well over 3,000 games.:rolleyes:


Are you serious????? You would actually resort to a physical confrontation to keep someone, who you did not think was prepared for the game, from working? If you feel passionately enough to actually get in a fist fight over this, put your gear back in your car and go home. I would rather be remembered as the guy who looked pretty sharp who worked with the doofus than be remembered as the guy who got in a fight with his partner in the parking lot (and then went to jail and opened himself up for a civil suit).

SanDiegoSteve Thu Apr 12, 2007 05:31pm

Well, he'd have to be a purty big feller to lay me out, and be able to take a punch, too. Maybe the little guys out there would have to worry about that.

I wouldn't let the guy work with me, plain and simple. If a firm "no, you ain't working with me" doesn't work, and the jerk wants to come onto the field, he can umpire the game by himself. I would at the very least go to my car and immediately inform my assignor.

Like I said, I would tell the guy to go get his uniform, and then come back.

Rich Fri Apr 13, 2007 08:17am

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Originally Posted by BigGuy
Stuff happens, eh? Doesn't say much for you then if you'd work with a jerk like this. Not only would I send this guy home, but I would report him to the state association. If you're so willing to lower your standards, it's not what you'd call a good reflection on you as a professional.

I'll work a whole season alone rather than have a partner who doesn't have enough self-respect to show up in uniform. If that makes me an SOB, so be it. If you don't look like an umpire, nobody will think you are one.

Whatever.

Stuff happens. People forget uniforms. Life goes on. One day we'll stop acting like this is brain surgery.

And Steve is quite brave, but I don't exactly have the power to stop someone from working an assigned, contracted game. Physical restraint? This is THAT important to you? Geez.

They would remember me as the guy who had a uniform, too.

Rich Fri Apr 13, 2007 08:21am

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Originally Posted by BigGuy
I agree with the above - in addition in order to umpire a game, it's mandatory to be in uniform and I can understand the fill-in. However, for a pre-scheduled assignment, an umpire is not present unless properly in uniform. In Illinois, if you're not wearing the IHSA patch some coaches would turn you in for uniform violation and they would be correct. Part of being an umpire is looking like one and that means being in the proper attire.

I work about 10-12 games in Illinois each season. I had a drawer full of patches.

BigGuy Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:41am

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Originally Posted by w_sohl
Careful throwing that Knucklehead name around, us die hard Boilermakers are known as Knuckleheads. ;)

I've never heard the Knuckleheads remark before. I too am a die hard Boilermaker, Chem E '78.

SanDiegoSteve Fri Apr 13, 2007 06:39pm

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Originally Posted by Steven Tyler
Easy there, Mike Tyson. Sounds like someone has take too many punches already.

No, the last person that tried got his a$$ kicked, though. Aren't I entitled to my opinion on this without the smart-mouthed response?

Oh, yeah, I forgot how easy it is to mouth off over the internet. Sounds like someone else I know on this forum.

SanDiegoSteve Sat Apr 14, 2007 12:38am

See ya later PWL.


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