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CJN Tue Mar 20, 2007 04:50pm

McDavid or Underarmour?
 
do you prefer mcdavid, underarmour, or some other brad for 1. compression pants and 2. undershirts? and maybe why?

thanks

JRutledge Tue Mar 20, 2007 05:10pm

I like both equally. I think UnderArmor has more variety of products, but McDavid's products are just as solid. I do wear only the compression pants from UnderArmor. I wear compression shirts from McDavid and UnderArmor and like both.

Peace

mrm21711 Tue Mar 20, 2007 05:14pm

Well Since You Asked
 
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Originally Posted by CJN
do you prefer mcdavid, underarmour, or some other brad for 1. compression pants and 2. undershirts? and maybe why?

thanks

I was always a UA guy, I remember picking up some of their shirts in a sporting goods store before they became really popular. Then I bought some McDavid shirts and tights from Davis and Honigs, and I am mixed. They are both great products and you cant go wrong. I would tend to recommend the McDavid "warmer weather" tights because they are cheaper than the UA tights and have a cup pocket. I only wear the UA cold gear and love it. The UA compression heat gear shirts are excellent, and I prefer them slightly more than the McDavid mock necks, I believe they are slightly cooler and stay dryer.

Basically you cant go wrong with either product. Dick Honig said there was some study, and they are all equally as effective, just UA has spent more $$ on advertising.

UMP25 Fri Mar 23, 2007 02:45pm

UA hands down, except for one, single item: the ankle-length leggings. UA doesn't make one with a built in cup pocket; McDavid does. Therefore, I stick with the grey McD ankle-length leggings.

tiger49 Fri Mar 23, 2007 03:21pm

UA is my choice for the next couple of years...Great product that I get at an awesome price. Thanks to work.

LDUB Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:14pm

I have skin tight shirts made by Nike, UA, McDavid, and some cheap "Wal Mart" brand. UA is by far the best. I have UA and McDavid tights and UA is once again much better. UA does not make tights with a cup pocket though.

DesertBlue Sat Mar 24, 2007 12:25am

I have UA heat gear shirts in blue and black and will probably also get some white. There is nothing like UA when temps are constantly above 100. I do wear the McDavid tights because they are good and the cup pocket position is great. Also the leg guards are easier to keep clean and smelling fresh longer when wearing the leggings.
I did send in a product suggestion to UA for leggings with a cup pocket like the McDavid's but who knows what if anything will come of that.

UMP25 Sat Mar 24, 2007 12:28am

You're not the only one who has made such a suggestion to the UA folks. I've done it each of the last two years, and each time I got the same response, which was essentially, "Thank you, we'll look into it."

mrm21711 Sat Mar 24, 2007 12:46am

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Originally Posted by SAump
In a previous thread, I expressed a new found joy after wearing a pair of old tights behind the plate. I forgot to mention another observation. It is much easier to slip my body into and out of a pair of compression tights, than to put on or remove a pair of athletic compression shorts and knee-high socks. I am aware that there is more pressure placed on both my sore back and protruding belly when I have to bend down a second time to reach the end of my feet while dealing with those socks. Sometimes I notice that also affects my normal breathing rate.

We can argue about it, but I have worn both the McDavid and UA tights in warm weather. For an extra $7-10 for the UA tights, I just dont see a difference between the two. I will agree, however, that the UA Heat Geat Compression tops keep me much cooler than the McDavid ultra hDc mock necks sold by Honigs, Lester's, ect.

The Cold Gear is worth every penny, though.

tjones1 Sat Mar 24, 2007 02:22am

All of my stuff is McDavid. Never had a problem with them and their stuff works great.

wadeintothem Sat Mar 24, 2007 09:42am

The biggest trick ever played on the umpiring community was "here, layer up, you'll be cooler!"

120 F CA San Joaquin Valley Heat and you are wearing those things you feel your sanity slowly slipping.

UMP25 Sat Mar 24, 2007 11:26am

Is it a trick? I don't believe so. I've worked in 100* + heat and extreme humidity--humidity DOES make a difference compared to just dry heat--and I've always worn UA undershirts (McDavid's on my legs due to the aforementioned cup pocket). I NEVER go without a UA undershirt. They've made a huge difference.

briancurtin Sat Mar 24, 2007 02:04pm

i just wear a mcdavid "interawear" mock under my shirts, in the appropriate color.
i do have a few underarmor short-sleeve shirts and sometimes i'll put one of those on for a very hot game on the plate

as for on the legs, i've only worn ankle length UA a few times. i normally wear compression shorts over a regular jock, since i dont like the feel of built-in pouches on those.

mrm21711 Sat Mar 24, 2007 03:23pm

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Originally Posted by wadeintothem
The biggest trick ever played on the umpiring community was "here, layer up, you'll be cooler!"

120 F CA San Joaquin Valley Heat and you are wearing those things you feel your sanity slowly slipping.

Most of us find ourselves to be substantially cooler and more comfortable wearing them.

wadeintothem Sun Mar 25, 2007 11:34pm

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Originally Posted by UMP25
Is it a trick? I don't believe so. I've worked in 100* + heat and extreme humidity--humidity DOES make a difference compared to just dry heat--and I've always worn UA undershirts (McDavid's on my legs due to the aforementioned cup pocket). I NEVER go without a UA undershirt. They've made a huge difference.

The shirts are fine. You have to wear an undershirt pretty much, so why not? I wasnt talking about the shirts but probably wasnt clear. I dont know that they are much cooler, but I wear them too.

The pants are hell in real heat If you are working an entire day several games in abnormally high heat, for me - those compression pants were the worst. I was noticeably cooler when I stopped believing the BS that layering up in the heat makes you cooler and stopped wearing the compression pants.

Somewhere, some guy said "Hey, I'm going to invent skin tight compression pants and tell people that if they wear them under their normal clothes they will be cooler"

His buddy told him "No one is going to believe that, people have been wearing long johns in the winter a long time to keep you warm. Everyone knows more clothes = more hot"

"I'll put it on the label that it makes you cooler and draw an arrow showing them how it makes you cooler, they will buy it"

"It will never work"

But he was wrong, it did work.

johnnyg08 Mon Mar 26, 2007 03:35pm

i'm not sure i agree with you sir...the technology out there for both hot and cold is pretty amazing...though i'm sure each person's body reacts a little differently to different elements..

Eastshire Mon Mar 26, 2007 04:19pm

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Originally Posted by wadeintothem
The shirts are fine. You have to wear an undershirt pretty much, so why not? I wasnt talking about the shirts but probably wasnt clear. I dont know that they are much cooler, but I wear them too.

The pants are hell in real heat If you are working an entire day several games in abnormally high heat, for me - those compression pants were the worst. I was noticeably cooler when I stopped believing the BS that layering up in the heat makes you cooler and stopped wearing the compression pants.

Somewhere, some guy said "Hey, I'm going to invent skin tight compression pants and tell people that if they wear them under their normal clothes they will be cooler"

His buddy told him "No one is going to believe that, people have been wearing long johns in the winter a long time to keep you warm. Everyone knows more clothes = more hot"

"I'll put it on the label that it makes you cooler and draw an arrow showing them how it makes you cooler, they will buy it"

"It will never work"

But he was wrong, it did work.

You're drinking the Kool-Aid here. We don't insulate houses only in the winter then yank it out in the summer to make the house cooler. Proper layering will keep you cooler in the summer.

johnnyg08 Mon Mar 26, 2007 04:32pm

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Originally Posted by Eastshire
You're drinking the Kool-Aid here. We don't insulate houses only in the winter then yank it out in the summer to make the house cooler. Proper layering will keep you cooler in the summer.

Amen...thank you for the articulation.

waltjp Mon Mar 26, 2007 05:40pm

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Originally Posted by Eastshire
You're drinking the Kool-Aid here. We don't insulate houses only in the winter then yank it out in the summer to make the house cooler. Proper layering will keep you cooler in the summer.

I don't disagree with the thought that these products can aid in cooling the human body (they do so by wicking the sweat away) but the analogy to insulation in a house is is a poor one. In the summer the house is cooled from the inside. The insulation keeps the cool air in the house.

johnnyg08 Mon Mar 26, 2007 09:06pm

that is if you choose to cool your house from the inside...my house stays plenty cool in the summer if I don't open the shades during peak sun...i also believe that insulation keeps cool air in...and warm air out...to a point of course...

johnnyg08 Mon Mar 26, 2007 09:07pm

and I do think at this point we're splitting hairs...it's personal preference...

UMP25 Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:06pm

For those who think layering or additional clothes make things hotter, consider why those who dwell in the desert wear layers of black and not white.

johnnyg08 Tue Mar 27, 2007 09:52am

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Originally Posted by UMP25
For those who think layering or additional clothes make things hotter, consider why those who dwell in the desert wear layers of black and not white.

not totally sure...possibly religion? either way...if anybody knows how to stay "comfortable" in hot weather...that's the part of the globe you'd want to consult.

UMP25 Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:16am

Nope, nothing to do with religion.

johnnyg08 Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:41am

in 100% of all instances?? doubt it...but i'm not interested in a debate about what nomads wear in the Sahara desert versus what an umpire should wear to work a game to be comfortable.

UMP25 Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:55am

Did I say "100% of all instances"? No. Don't assume.

And you should be interested, because the reason why black is worn in the desert is very similar to why umpires wear undergarments in the heat.

johnnyg08 Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:22am

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Originally Posted by UMP25
And you should be interested, because the reason why black is worn in the desert is very similar to why umpires wear undergarments in the heat.

i've never disagreed with you on that point...

Texas Aggie Tue May 22, 2007 02:47pm

For those of you that don't know, UA makes v-neck shirts in their heat gear line. The only thing is you have to go to a police or military gear website to get them, as they are from their tactical line. Same price, though, with the added benefit that the logo is the same color as the shirt.

I am afraid, however, that they only come in black and white (unless changed recently). But, since the v-neck doesn't show, those of you wearing light or navy blue shirts should be OK.

UMP25 Tue May 22, 2007 03:26pm

Personally, I'd like them to have their loose fitting heat gear shirts in the mock turtleneck style, like McDavid does.


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