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JRutledge Tue Mar 20, 2007 03:14pm

2007 Part 2 Exam
 
I would like to know if anyone has taken the Part 2 Exam and received the answers.

Before someone gets their panties in a bunch, I already took the test on Monday (March 19) and I wanted to see what score I got. Just about everyone in the State takes the test on the same day. Some of the questions were not very well written and I wanted to see if anyone else had similar problems with a couple of questions.

If you could PM me, that would be even better.

Peace

WhistlesAndStripes Tue Mar 20, 2007 03:29pm

Hmmmmmmmmmmm.....this sounds an awful lot like the same excuse people always use when looking for the answer sheet early. Just be patient and you'll get your results back soon enough showing which questions you missed and why.

ctblu40 Tue Mar 20, 2007 03:32pm

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Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes
Hmmmmmmmmmmm.....this sounds an awful lot like the same excuse people always use when looking for the answer sheet early. Just be patient and you'll get your results back soon enough showing which questions you missed and why.

I've been taking the FED test every year for the past 9 years and have never been given my test back. I've also never been told what my score was. Different state I suppose.

WhistlesAndStripes Tue Mar 20, 2007 03:37pm

We always get ours back with correct answers and rule references.

JRutledge Tue Mar 20, 2007 03:38pm

IHSA Handbook--Page 17

Look at page 17 and see what the testing date is for baseball (and all other spring sports).

Peace

WhistlesAndStripes Tue Mar 20, 2007 03:40pm

Those timetables are always subject to change.

JRutledge Tue Mar 20, 2007 03:40pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctblu40
I've been taking the FED test every year for the past 9 years and have never been given my test back. I've also never been told what my score was. Different state I suppose.

I have the questions; I do not have the scantron or the confirmed answers. I think I did fine, but I was not sure about a few.
Peace

midtnblu Tue Mar 20, 2007 03:40pm

1st year for this... in TN we take our test online now and get results immediately.

After completing the test, it is graded and the answer sheet opens in a new window. In case of incorrect answers, the rule reference is cited next to the answer.

JRutledge Tue Mar 20, 2007 03:42pm

Reading is fundamental.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes
Those timetables are always subject to change.

The 2007-08 is subject to change. The 2006-2007 is kind of hard to change when this is the current year's book.

Anything else you want to know?

Peace

ctblu40 Tue Mar 20, 2007 03:45pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge
I have the questions; I do not have the scantron or the confirmed answers. I think I did fine, but I was not sure about a few. W&S is an idiot, just ignore him.

Peace

Wish I could help... I'm taking Part 1 as I type. Will turn it in tonight and never see it again.

Blue37 Wed Mar 21, 2007 07:45am

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Originally Posted by midtnblu
1st year for this... in TN we take our test online now and get results immediately.

After completing the test, it is graded and the answer sheet opens in a new window. In case of incorrect answers, the rule reference is cited next to the answer.

Remember, though, our test is not the Fed part two test. There is a pool of questions, and the computer randomly selects questions from that pool for each umpire. While there is a statistical possibility our tests were identical, in all probability, my test was very different from your test.

How did you do? I missed one. It had to do with the authority of the UIC to refuse to allow the dugouts to be extended. I had true, then changed it to false. They said true and cited 10-2-3g. Oh well.

JRutledge Wed Mar 21, 2007 02:33pm

Well I passed.
 
It looks like I received an 88. I did pass but I did not do as well as I thought I would do. I did not study as hard as I have in the past. Some of these questions were not very clear if you ask me. Oh well, I will not have to take this test anymore.

Thanks to the person that sent me the information. You really helped put my mind at ease for a few days.

Thanks (fill in the blank). :)

Peace

mcrowder Wed Mar 21, 2007 03:19pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge
It looks like I received an 88. I did pass but I did not do as well as I thought I would do. I did not study as hard as I have in the past. Some of these questions were not very clear if you ask me. Oh well, I will not have to take this test anymore.

Thanks to the person that sent me the information. You really helped put my mind at ease for a few days.

Thanks (fill in the blank). :)

Peace

So which did you miss - we can discuss individual questions, right?

UMP 64 Wed Mar 21, 2007 03:39pm

Fed test
 
Yes,there are as usuall, 6 or so dumb questions. as always, do nor read anything into the question and you may get a correct answer(50% chance).

JRutledge Wed Mar 21, 2007 04:01pm

These are my mistakes.
 
I missed these questions.

4, 8, 10, 12, 21, 29, 45, 50, 64, 72, 73, 74, 97 (I actually got an 87, noticed one wrong).

#8--I over thought. It is a delayed dead ball when the ball touches and illegal glove or mitt.

#10--This question is the reason I hate these tests. You have to finish a game with at least 2 baseball balls. I took a guess. Either way it goes we are finishing a game with any number of balls that are left.

#12--The Coefficient of Restitution (COR) is .555, not .700. Who cares?

#21--The rule does not say anything about the batter specifically. It only talks about the coach and team representatives going back to the coaching box or bench area.

#29--I just misread the question. It is not an illegal slide goes beyond the base and does not make contact or does not alter the play. I just blew that answer.

#45--The rules word for word states the foul tip going to the catcher's hand and is caught by any fielder is a foul tip. I just read into the question.

#50--"A pitcher may attempt a legal pick-off from both the windup and set position." Now I said True while thinking you can step off the rubber. I could not find any direct language saying this was false. I am still looking.

#64--New rules or clarification here. The head coach is restricted to the dugout if a request for personnel to stay in the coaching box has violated a previous request to do so. It is not an ejection as I thought.

#72--"A runner, who is the only one on base at the time and is attempting to return to second base when the ball becomes lodged in the batter-runner's jersey, will be awarded third base." I said true, but now I see why it was false. (Rule 8-3-3f)

#73--Only the defensive team may appeal a batting order situation at the time of bat. I was thinking either team.

#74--"When no appeal has been made on an improper batter, the next batter shall be the batter whose name follows that of the proper batter who should have been at bat."

#97--"Base umpire collides with a base runner." I said true without thinking of the actual definition of an umpire and runner colliding. It has never happen to me. I made an assumption and was wrong.

Peace

ctblu40 Wed Mar 21, 2007 04:57pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge
#50--"A pitcher may attempt a legal pick-off from both the windup and set position." Now I said True while thinking you can step off the rubber. I could not find any direct language saying this was false. I am still looking.

FYI- Look at 6.1.2 "With his feet in the windup position, the pitcher may only deliver a pitch or step backward of the pitcher's plate with his pivot foot first."

I suppose that this is the the reason you got it wrong, he cant pick off a runner while in contact. You know the correct ruling, but missed the question. No sweat.

UmpJM Wed Mar 21, 2007 05:12pm

Jeff,

Quote:

#74--"When no appeal has been made on an improper batter, the next batter shall be the batter whose name follows that of the proper batter who should have been at bat."
I would say this is false. If no appeal of the improper batter is (ever) made, the improper batter's at bat is "legitimized". Therefore, the next batter should be the the player whose name follows that of the improper batter who actually was at bat and was not appealed.

JM

JRutledge Wed Mar 21, 2007 06:27pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctblu40
FYI- Look at 6.1.2 "With his feet in the windup position, the pitcher may only deliver a pitch or step backward of the pitcher's plate with his pivot foot first."

I suppose that this is the the reason you got it wrong, he cant pick off a runner while in contact. You know the correct ruling, but missed the question. No sweat.

I agree, but that is not how I was looking at it. I guess I would have liked it if they said, "While in contact with the rubber." But you can step back legally and try to pick off someone. As you said no sweat. You live and learn.

Peace

bossman72 Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:21pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge
I agree, but that is not how I was looking at it. I guess I would have liked it if they said, "While in contact with the rubber." But you can step back legally and try to pick off someone. As you said no sweat. You live and learn.

Peace

If you think about it, if you step off the rubber, you're not in ANY position, so stepping off the rubber shouldn't have been considered in the question.

Also Jeff, if you did get a copy of the test and answers, could you send me a pm?

Don't worry. I live in PA where it's "one and done." (You take your test when you initially start umpiring and you never have to re-test your entire officiating career).

bob jenkins Thu Mar 22, 2007 11:35am

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge
I agree, but that is not how I was looking at it. I guess I would have liked it if they said, "While in contact with the rubber." But you can step back legally and try to pick off someone. As you said no sweat. You live and learn.

Peace

Once F1 steps back, he's not in the wind-up position. So, by specifying the positions in the question, FED *was* stating that F1 was on the rubber.

JRutledge Thu Mar 22, 2007 12:13pm

That is still semantics if you ask me.

Peace

bigda65 Thu Mar 22, 2007 01:49pm

So a jab step move "from the windup", is only considered a pickoff from the rubber when awarding bases on an overthrow, but not considered a pickoff move from the rubber?

now im confused!!

ctblu40 Thu Mar 22, 2007 05:08pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigda65
So a jab step move "from the windup", is only considered a pickoff from the rubber when awarding bases on an overthrow, but not considered a pickoff move from the rubber?

now im confused!!

This one's simple...
In FED a "jab step" move to pick off a runner from the windup position is illegal, and a balk.
Don't be confused. In FED, a pitcher in the windup position on the rubber can either start his winup and deliver to the batter, or step off the rubber with his pivot foot first.

bob jenkins Thu Mar 22, 2007 06:57pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigda65
So a jab step move "from the windup", is only considered a pickoff from the rubber when awarding bases on an overthrow, but not considered a pickoff move from the rubber?

now im confused!!

Who said this, and what is a "jab step from the wind up?"

In any event, a jab step is not a legal disengagement (which only occurs by stepping abck off the rubber), so all the "on the rubber" rules apply.


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