Strike 3 or what?
 

I had something happen the other night that I have never seen.

2 strikes on the batter, next pitch is a curve coming inside and the batter ducks the pitch. As the ball comes over the batter, it nicks the bat and the catcher makes a clean catch. He didn't realize what happened and neither did anyone else.

But, it got me to thinking...that was a foul tip and it should have been strike 3?

But, I was thinking no since the batter made no effort to swing, but...

Whats the call?

Yes!


If the ball hits the bat, you play it like he swung it. Whatever happens happens. Swinging the bat has nothing to do with it.

Check the definition of foul tip: ball that strikes the bat and goes sharply and directly to the catcher's hand/glove and is subsequently caught. This fits the definition.

Just think: If he ducked and the ball hit the bat and rolled in fair territory, its a batted ball right? If he ducked and popped the ball up and is caught, its a catch right?

Amazing.... Just about every TWP that comes up you have seen "just the other day"... :rolleyes:

Does a Captain Umpire count?:D

(Now we're outa order.... who's out and who's up next?)

So you would stop the game to overrule the PU?

foul tip, strike three, see ya

WOW...:eek:

well schucks yall... guess I misread 6.05b...I could just swear it says...HE'S OUT:D

Oh....my....God.

If the catcher didn't catch it then it would not be a foul tip now would it.

You didn't? Then why'd you call it a foul tip? What do you think a foul tip is, Mr. McCarver?

Calls TIME I do. Then me and ol Smitty has a talk like, 'you see that tip'?
When he sez yep, then it's all over!

OMG! You really don't know what you are talking about, do you?

And you wonder why we immediately take umbrage with newbies such as yourself!

It is not a matter of misreading something (no matter what it is) when you make a statement that, "[A] foul tip cannot result in a strike three."

That is plainly a misunderstanding of what a "foul tip" is, by rule book definition.

Most of the posters on this board apparently have recognized this, but your repeated replies about misreading something makes it obvious that you need to crack open your rule book to try to get a firm grasp as to what a "foul tip" is, and what a "foul ball" is.

gotblue?,

OK. The kid goofed. He apologized - twice. He may have actually gone & read the rule (and the post, apparently). Regardless, he appears to have learned the rule.

Let's give him an iota of credit for bothering and move along.

JM

Sorry, JM, but I still do not see evidence of a recognition by boyinblue24 that a "foul tip" is, by definition, a ball that is caught by the catcher, and that a "foul ball", or any other ball not caught by the catcher, is something different entirely.

He stated that a "foul tip" cannot be strike three, and then said that he misread (overlooked?) the post that stated that the ball was caught by the catcher, which caused him to change his mind about whether strike three could be called. So I am thinking that he still thinks that a "foul tip" is something that might or might not be caught by the catcher, and would be strike three only if it is caught by the catcher. Whereas I am trying to clarify to him that it is not a "foul tip" in the first instance if it is not caught by the catcher.

If I have "misread" the string of posts, then I apologize for dragging this out. Then again, BIB24 could possibly share the blame by not writing with sufficient clarity for all of us to understand.

gotblue?,

You may well be correct.

Personally, I think people would take LittleBoyBlue more seriously if he took himself a little more seriously. You know, thought about what he'd said for a sec. before hitting "submit"; maybe checked, or phrased it as a question if he weren't sure.

We'll see.

JM