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beancenzo Thu Jun 29, 2000 03:34pm

Just curious on how the scoring works on this.

If a batter strikes out and the ball is not caught by the catcher, the batter can try to run to first base. The pitcher still gets credited for a strikeout? What if there are two outs recorded (both strikeouts), then this play, then another strikeout. Does the pitcher get 4 strikeouts in one inning?

Alligator Bag Fri Jun 30, 2000 01:35am

Yes, I believe they do

Gee Fri Jun 30, 2000 04:20pm

OBR 10.17 Says the a dropped third strike is scored as a K. A third strike bunted foul, but not caught, is also scored as a K. G.

Richard Ogg Fri Jul 21, 2000 04:03pm

I saw a SF Giants game once where there seemed to be 4 outs in a scenario like this. (I don't ref baseball, so tolerance please.)

With a runner on 2nd and 2 outs, the third strike comes as the batter swings and misses a pitch in the dirt. On the pitch R2 takes off for 3rd. The catcher (Manwaring?) came up throwing to third base. R2 was throne out at 3rd base for the 3rd out, and obviously the batter didn't then try to run to first base, so (presumably) he was out too for the 4th out!

The announcer went wild on the possibility of the ball sailing into left field, and then where would they be....

coach Sat Jul 29, 2000 10:56pm

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Geneva">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by beancenzo:
Just curious on how the scoring works on this.

If a batter strikes out and the ball is not caught by the catcher, the batter can try to run to first base. The pitcher still gets credited for a strikeout? What if there are two outs recorded (both strikeouts), then this play, then another strikeout. Does the pitcher get 4 strikeouts in one inning?
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no the pitcher is only credited with 3 outs. If you would like me to explain e-mail me.


bluezebra Sat Aug 12, 2000 05:25pm

The pitcher is credited with as many strikeouts as he gets. The MLB record is 4 K's in one inning by a number of pitchers.
Bob

Bill Meyers Sat Aug 12, 2000 06:23pm

In a 1976 spring training game, Astros pitcher Joe Neikro was credited with 5 strikeouts in the first inning. His catcher, Cliff Johnson was having a tough time learning to catch Neikro's knuckleball.
Johnson committed five passed balls, including two on third strikes that allowed both batters to reach first safely.

Buster Sat Aug 12, 2000 10:52pm

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Geneva">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Richard Ogg:
I saw a SF Giants game once where there seemed to be 4 outs in a scenario like this. (I don't ref baseball, so tolerance please.)

With a runner on 2nd and 2 outs, the third strike comes as the batter swings and misses a pitch in the dirt. On the pitch R2 takes off for 3rd. The catcher (Manwaring?) came up throwing to third base. R2 was throne out at 3rd base for the 3rd out, and obviously the batter didn't then try to run to first base, so (presumably) he was out too for the 4th out!

The announcer went wild on the possibility of the ball sailing into left field, and then where would they be....
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Keep in mind that the third out was not recorded until the runner was put at third base. The batter in this case would have been credited with a Fielder's Choice by the official scorer. The pitcher is credited with a K on a DTS for his pitching stats only. It aint his fault the cather dropped it.

bluezebra Sun Aug 13, 2000 12:19am

If you think Niekro's catchers had problems, consider this: the 1945 Washington Senators had FOUR knuckleballers on their staff.
Bob

bluezebra Sun Aug 13, 2000 01:14pm

I just checked, and here's some info on 4 strikeouts in one inning. There were 17 occasions in the AL, Chuck Finley did it 3 times. The NL had 18 4 strikeout innings.
Bob


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