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johnSandlin Sun Oct 01, 2006 08:14pm

Playoff Umpiring Crews
 
Just checked Joe West's website, and he has all of the Division Series umpirng crews, plus both League Championship Series Crews as well.

SanDiegoSteve Sun Oct 01, 2006 08:25pm

Opening in San Diego is Gerry Davis, Bill Welke, Brian Gorman, Greg Gibson, Wally Bell, and Marty Foster.

SanDiegoSteve Sun Oct 01, 2006 08:30pm

To save everyone the trouble of going to the website, here are the assignments:

Opening in Shea Stadium for the first round of the playoffs is: John Hirschbeck - Crew Chief, Ted Barrett, Eric Cooper, Ron Kulpa, Mike Winters, and Brian O'Nora

Opening in Yankee Stadium will be Tim McClelland - Crew Chief, Laz Diaz, Alfonso Marquez, Paul Emmel, Larry Poncino, and Larry Vanover

Opening in San Diego is Gerry Davis - Crew Chief, Bill Welke, Brian Gorman, Greg Gibson, Wally Bell, and Marty Foster

Opening in Minnesota is Randy Marsh - Crew Chief, Kerwin Danley, Mike Everette, Ed Rapuano, Tim Tschida, and Tony Randazzo

The American League Championship Series will be umpired by Gerald Crawford - Crew Chief, Hunter Wendelstedt, Darryl Cousins, Chuck Merriweather, Gary Cederstom, and Mike Reilly

The National League Championship Series will be umpired by Tim Welke - Crew Chief, Jim Joyce, Jerry Layne, Fieldin Culbreth, Jeff Kellogg, and Gary Darling

TussAgee11 Sun Oct 01, 2006 09:20pm

No West....

interesting...

he made 2 controversial calls last year in the NYY LAA series, wonder if this played a part in it... probably not.

Just odd he wouldn't be in there, no?

mattmets Sun Oct 01, 2006 09:22pm

Not to play the "XXX should have made it over YYY" game, but how do 3 umpires (West, Nelson, Hernandez) go from WS assignments to none? Just seems odd.

TussAgee11 Sun Oct 01, 2006 09:26pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattmets
Not to play the "XXX should have made it over YYY" game, but how do 3 umpires (West, Nelson, Hernandez) go from WS assignments to none? Just seems odd.

As for the Angel thing... well...

he's not an MLB umpire, and should not be on the game's greatest stage.

JMO

SanDiegoSteve Sun Oct 01, 2006 10:33pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by PWL
Larry Poncino is a Joe West clone. Saw him the other night on TV. Situation is no outs and R1. Vlad Guerrero hits a flare into left field that U3 goes out on. Meanwhile R1 is off on the the hit. Poncino is PU. I didn't think he was ever going to get there to make a call on the play at 3B. He was still in foul territory as the tag was being made. He then cut inside fair territory to make the call of safe. Kind of bad mechanics for a post season umpire if I say so myself.

Poncino blew a call at 2nd base on the final play in the Padres/DBacks game today. Bochy came out to argue, and Poncino realized he blew the call and changed his safe call to out, giving the win to the Padres.

They play was a hot smash to Barfield's (F4) left. His throw pulled F3 off the base, but Gonzalez alertly threw to 2nd in time for the force, but Poncino, thinking it was a tag play, called the runner safe. That was the out that clinched the NL West. The score at the time was 7-6 after Hoffman nearly blew the save with back-to-back HRs.

SanDiegoSteve Sun Oct 01, 2006 10:43pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by TussAgee11
As for the Angel thing... well...

he's not an MLB umpire, and should not be on the game's greatest stage.

JMO

Uh, the last time I looked at Angel's shirt, there was a MLB patch on it.

scottyman51 Mon Oct 02, 2006 09:17am

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattmets
Not to play the "XXX should have made it over YYY" game, but how do 3 umpires (West, Nelson, Hernandez) go from WS assignments to none? Just seems odd.



Wasnt it west,Eddings,and Hernandez...not nelson. Dougy eddings is just as bad as Hernandez....

mattmets Mon Oct 02, 2006 09:24am

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottyman51
Wasnt it west,Eddings,and Hernandez...not nelson. Dougy eddings is just as bad as Hernandez....

No. It wasn't.

edman42 Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:17pm

Very surprised Scott and Froemming did not get an assignment

tjones1 Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:59pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve
Opening in Shea Stadium for the first round of the playoffs is: John Hirschbeck - Crew Chief, Ted Barrett, Eric Cooper, Ron Kulpa, Mike Winters, and Brian O'Nora

That's my favorite crew for the opening round.

mattmets Mon Oct 02, 2006 01:12pm

I know it's early, but....if I had to pick a WS crew based on the DS umpires, they would come from this group:

McClelland (cc), Marquez, Everitt, Rapuano, Winters, Barrett, Bell, Davis

CJN Mon Oct 02, 2006 03:45pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattmets
I know it's early, but....if I had to pick a WS crew based on the DS umpires, they would come from this group:

McClelland (cc), Marquez, Everitt, Rapuano, Winters, Barrett, Bell, Davis


Here's mine (its pretty similar):

McClelland (cc), Winters, Bell, Bill Welke, Rapuano, Davis

SanDiegoSteve Mon Oct 02, 2006 03:57pm

I like this one:

Hernandez (cc), Wendelstedt, Dreckman, Eddings, Bucknor, Davidson.

scottyman51 Mon Oct 02, 2006 04:06pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve
I like this one:

Hernandez (cc), Wendelstedt, Dreckman, Eddings, Bucknor, Davidson.



Asside from wendelstedt i dont think i could agree with you more.

orangeump Mon Oct 02, 2006 04:16pm

you guys love MLB umps and yet you cant even figure out the criteria for working a world series?

first round guys ONLY can work the world series, not guys that arent even on staff; Bob Davidson. Or guys that work the LCS; Hunter.

or even Eddings since he isnt working the first round at all....

that is all, now please go back to your made up guesses about who is going to work what and when

SanDiegoSteve Mon Oct 02, 2006 04:23pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by orangeump
you guys love MLB umps and yet you cant even figure out the criteria for working a world series?

first round guys ONLY can work the world series, not guys that arent even on staff; Bob Davidson. Or guys that work the LCS; Hunter.

or even Eddings since he isnt working the first round at all....

that is all, now please go back to your made up guesses about who is going to work what and when

Hey, it was a joke, I say a joke, son. Sorry, but I thought it was really obvious, but I guess I need to add a bunch of :D :D :D :) :rolleyes: :p :cool: so folks like you can see the humor. Please see the doctor to have that stick removed.

mbyron Mon Oct 02, 2006 06:39pm

Here's mine: Flora, Fauna, Merriwether, Kukla, Fran, and Ollie.

Do I need smilies too?

Southside Mon Oct 02, 2006 09:30pm

Anybody else surprised by the lack of Jeff Nelson?

mrm21711 Mon Oct 02, 2006 09:43pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Southside
Anybody else surprised by the lack of Jeff Nelson?

No, he has received a lot of postseason assignments in the last few years.

mattmets Mon Oct 02, 2006 09:44pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrm21711
No, he has received a lot of postseason assignments in the last few years.

Then it's a sad thing when a good umpire gets shut out because of "too many assignments".

edman42 Tue Oct 03, 2006 07:33am

While we are talking MLB umpires, who will the new crew chiefs be next year? Brinkman has to be filled, I assume Montague is done, but there is no official word, Froemming? Marsh? In order these would be my top 4. Rapuano,Cousins,Joyce,Meriweather.

mattmets Tue Oct 03, 2006 07:55am

Quote:

Originally Posted by edman42
While we are talking MLB umpires, who will the new crew chiefs be next year? Brinkman has to be filled, I assume Montague is done, but there is no official word, Froemming? Marsh? In order these would be my top 4. Rapuano,Cousins,Joyce,Meriweather.

You're treading dangerous waters here, expect the jocksniffer comments.

BUT- to fairly answer your question, I definitely think Mike Winters is getting Froemming's spot. I would say the next 4 in line would be Joyce, Rapuano, Layne, Hohn. Also, someone will need to be promoted to 2 to replace Terry Craft, though I think Davidson might be thrown in there.

Jurassic Referee Tue Oct 03, 2006 09:41am

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattmets
You're treading dangerous waters here, expect the jocksniffer comments.

BUT- to fairly answer your question, I definitely think Mike Winters is getting Froemming's spot. I would say the next 4 in line would be Joyce, Rapuano, Layne, Hohn. Also, someone will need to be promoted to 2 to replace Terry Craft, though I think Davidson might be thrown in there.

Why don't you have a poll?

mattmets Tue Oct 03, 2006 11:32am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Why don't you have a poll?

Because I don't care that much.

Do you?

UMP25 Tue Oct 03, 2006 11:08pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Southside
Anybody else surprised by the lack of Jeff Nelson?

Jeff's one of the best in the game, and considered one of the game's top rules guys, too. I am a bit surprised that he didn't get a thing. ;)

GoodwillRef Wed Oct 04, 2006 06:27am

Quote:

Originally Posted by TussAgee11
No West....

interesting...

he made 2 controversial calls last year in the NYY LAA series, wonder if this played a part in it... probably not.

Just odd he wouldn't be in there, no?


I thought that the MLB playoff assignments were done on a rotation basis and not on merit, I could be wrong. If it was done on merit we would see the same "really good" umpire working the WS every year.

mbyron Wed Oct 04, 2006 06:31am

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef
I THOUGHT THAT THE MLB PLAYOFF ASSIGNMENTS WERE DONE ON A ROTATION BASIS AND NOT ON MERIT? I COULD BE WRONG? IF IT WAS DONE ON MERIT WE WOULD HAVE THE SAME "REALLY GOOD" UMPIRES WORKING EVERY LCS AND WS EVERY YEAR LIKE THE NBA!

You've made 11 posts and nobody's told you to stop shouting?

GoodwillRef Wed Oct 04, 2006 06:39am

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbyron
You've made 11 posts and nobody's told you to stop shouting?

Sorry about that didn't realize I had the Caps Lock on.

lawump Wed Oct 04, 2006 08:33am

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef
I thought that the MLB playoff assignments were done on a rotation basis and not on merit, I could be wrong. If it was done on merit we would see the same "really good" umpire working the WS every year.

You thought wrong. :) Done on merit, with the above cited rules (no back-to-back playoff rounds; no back-to-back world series). According to a (SF) Bay Area newspaper story printed on-line yesterday, MLB has 7 supervisors meet toward the end of the season to review each umpire's body of work for the season (quest-tec; handling situations; rules knowledge; pace of game; etc.) and then make the post-season selections.

mattmets Wed Oct 04, 2006 08:45am

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef
I thought that the MLB playoff assignments were done on a rotation basis and not on merit, I could be wrong. If it was done on merit we would see the same "really good" umpire working the WS every year.

You say that last part like it's a bad thing.

UMP25 Wed Oct 04, 2006 03:37pm

BTW, there are times when an umpire actually does not want or cannot work a special event. I know from personal experience that this is the case when one of my MLB friends told me he requested no post-season assignments due to personal reasons. This might be why he didn't get any this year, too. ;)

tjones1 Fri Oct 06, 2006 07:36am

Quote:

Originally Posted by UMP25
BTW, there are times when an umpire actually does not want or cannot work a special event. I know from personal experience that this is the case when one of my MLB friends told me he requested no post-season assignments due to personal reasons. This might be why he didn't get any this year, too. ;)

Hmmmm, Mark Carlson?

Also, watching the LA/Mets game last night, I was reminded how big of a boy Ted Barrett is!

ChuckElias Fri Oct 06, 2006 09:48pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve
Opening in Yankee Stadium will be Tim McClelland - Crew Chief, Laz Diaz, Alfonso Marquez, Paul Emmel, Larry Poncino, and Larry Vanover

Vanover's missed a couple tonight in Detroit. The Rodriguez play at third was close, but sure looked like ARod tagged him before Pudge got to the bag. The tag was high and maybe that influenced the call. Also called a ball down the line foul after white paint clearly flew up. Not his call, I think, but he had to give help and didn't have it.

SanDiegoSteve Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:03pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChuckElias
Vanover's missed a couple tonight in Detroit. The Rodriguez play at third was close, but sure looked like ARod tagged him before Pudge got to the bag. The tag was high and maybe that influenced the call. Also called a ball down the line foul after white paint clearly flew up. Not his call, I think, but he had to give help and didn't have it.

And he had great positioning on both calls.

Even in real time, the tag at 3rd was a pretty basic call, not really that close. The ball was there and a solid tag applied well before he reached his meathook on the base.

On the foul call, he was turned and set to call it, and should have called it fair. I think he saw McClelland with his hands up to his chest and perhaps thought he meant that he was about to signal foul, but was looking for confirmation.

UMP25 Sat Oct 07, 2006 03:51pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjones1
Hmmmm, Mark Carlson?

Also, watching the LA/Mets game last night, I was reminded how big of a boy Ted Barrett is!

Teddy was my roommate at umpire school, and let me tell you, he wasn't a small boy then, either! :p

Southside Sat Oct 07, 2006 04:24pm

I was pretty surprised to see Vanover on the playoff roster (his first ever, at the end of his 11th season [1993-1998, 2002-2006]). Prior to this year, he was the only umpire hired prior to the 1999 fiasco to not have a postseason assignment (and only 3 other pre-1999 ump have less than 5, even if they were out for a few years with the resignation thing). Interestingly, one of those 3 others is Larry Poncino, who'd have the plate for game 5.

SanDiegoSteve Sat Oct 07, 2006 06:14pm

I think Paul Emmel is calling a helluva good game in Detroit today. He has that good, comfortable looking scissors stance that I used to enjoy so much.

mattmets Sat Oct 07, 2006 06:36pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve
I think Paul Emmel is calling a helluva good game in Detroit today. He has that good, comfortable looking scissors stance that I used to enjoy so much.

I'll second that. Throw in the fact that FOX mentioned he's about to become a father for the second time, and he's had a hell of a day. Very good umpiring out of this crew, except the little Vanover incidents last night.

SanDiegoSteve Sat Oct 07, 2006 07:08pm

Cooper's drawing the wrath of Maddux already, one batter into the game!


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