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johnSandlin Mon Sep 04, 2006 06:38pm

Crew Switching
 
Must be evaluation time for MLB umpires. Most everyone is working on different crews right now and there a still six to eight AAA umpires filling in for vacations or injuries.

Post season consideration must be getting the final decision time with umpires working with different crews right now.

mattmets Mon Sep 04, 2006 06:48pm

For your own good, don't bring up anything related to MLB umpires. Odds are you'll either be called a jocksniffer or asked where Greg Gibson is renting his car from this week.

But I noticed that as well, and I think it's just a matter of getting the better umpires working bigger games, though that seems to be most games this year, especially in the NL. *exhale*

jxt127 Mon Sep 04, 2006 06:59pm

Actually it was rather nice watching the AAA guys do 2-man today.

scottyman51 Mon Sep 04, 2006 07:11pm

Noticed Randy Marsh and his crew is doing a back to back series in boston.The only difference is Sam Holbrook is back and Angel Hernandez is not. Any reason they left the same crew to do the same team back to back?

mattmets Mon Sep 04, 2006 07:29pm

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Originally Posted by scottyman51
Noticed Randy Marsh and his crew is doing a back to back series in boston.The only difference is Sam Holbrook is back and Angel Hernandez is not. Any reason they left the same crew to do the same team back to back?


Good question. Same thing happened in Detroit with Gary Darling.

mrm21711 Mon Sep 04, 2006 07:37pm

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Originally Posted by mattmets
Good question. Same thing happened in Detroit with Gary Darling.

Night games that turned around into day games on Monday.

mattmets Mon Sep 04, 2006 08:00pm

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Originally Posted by mrm21711
Night games that turned around into day games on Monday.

So? Hasn't this happened before?

mrm21711 Mon Sep 04, 2006 11:29pm

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Originally Posted by mattmets
So? Hasn't this happened before?

I apologize for answering your question. I knew you were going to shoot back with some stupid response even when I considered replying to your original post. I should have known better and deferred to the "expert" MLB jock sniffer & stalker.

bob jenkins Tue Sep 05, 2006 08:02am

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Originally Posted by mattmets
So? Hasn't this happened before?

Probably. And, keeping the same crew in the same city for the next series has happened before as well.

goyanksgonj Sat Sep 16, 2006 04:33pm

Must be serious evaluation time for AAA guys. Why it would be during, for some teams, the biggest games of the season, is beyond me, but, anyway. I mean, just among CC's, we've got 7 of the 15 with assignments this week taking a back seat, not to mention that there are always two crews on vacation in any given week (BTW, if anyone knows which ones these are for this week, please let me know, thanks). Plus, there's 4 other ones out of the rest of the staff taking a back seat (although, one of those is filling-in as the possible associate CC on another crew, and the other two, between them, I believe, have worked one game the entire year). Now, I guess it's really not fair to talk about Brinkman being taking a back seat, since I believe he's retired, as injuries wouldn't allow him to complete the season. We already had another one of these situations come up earlier this season (Craft), but at least we know already which AAA guy took that spot. In Brinkman's case, there's two things that need to be considered. First of all, which AAA guy took that spot. And, second of all, which non-CC was promoted to CC? The MLB.com Umpires section is really slow in getting updated, and the WUA Web site is even worse. They never made any mention of congratulating Craft on his retirement, or Barksdale on his promotion. They didn't even bother to update the crew listings there to reflect that retirement and promotion, not to mention Brinkman's. And their list of AAA guys that worked games is so out-of-date, it's really not funny anymore. I mean, even on the MLB.com Umpires section, they need to change Cuzzi's biography for the 2nd consecutive year to reflect his number change, not to mention spelling Dreckman right. Also, not ever reflected in their AAA roster was the addition for this year of Mike Estabrook. I mean, they did update the crew listings and staff roster to reflect Craft's retirement and Barksdale's promotion. But, again, nothing when it comes to Brinkman. Joe West's site is actually worse. He's been saying the '06 roster is coming soon for practically the entire season, and doesn't even have the AAA roster. His crew listings are, like the WUA ones, from the beginning of the season. Oops, I forgot one thing. Neither the WUA nor Joe West's sites bothered to mention this year's All-Star game crew. The WUA also has a sort of "Ask the Ump" feature. That hasn't been updated in almost two years, as it has T. Welke's crew from '04. Then again, neither has MLB.com updated their rules question column, nor their own "Ask the Ump" column, in quite a while.

If anybody possibly has information on the Brinkman situation, would you mind passing it along? Thanks. And, if you're from one of the Web sites I picked apart above, I hate to say it, but you might want to try and taking most, if not all, of my suggestions.

briancurtin Sat Sep 16, 2006 05:10pm

goyanksgonj:

how important do you think the umpires page at MLB.com is to the MLB staff? im going to go with it being the least important section that they maintain on their entire system. they probably do not even care about how up to date it is, because 99.99742% of the people clicking on MLB.com are going for game scores, team schedules, team news, statistics, or the shop sections.

the umpiring section on MLB.com is probably not even important to 80+% of the people on this very forum, which are all baseball umpires.

Jurassic Referee Sat Sep 16, 2006 05:31pm

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Originally Posted by goyanksgonj
Must be serious evaluation time for AAA guys. Why it would be during, for some teams, the biggest games of the season, is beyond me, but, anyway. I mean, just among CC's, we've got 7 of the 15 with assignments this week taking a back seat, not to mention that there are always two crews on vacation in any given week (BTW, if anyone knows which ones these are for this week, please let me know, thanks). Plus, there's 4 other ones out of the rest of the staff taking a back seat (although, one of those is filling-in as the possible associate CC on another crew, and the other two, between them, I believe, have worked one game the entire year). Now, I guess it's really not fair to talk about Brinkman being taking a back seat, since I believe he's retired, as injuries wouldn't allow him to complete the season. We already had another one of these situations come up earlier this season (Craft), but at least we know already which AAA guy took that spot. In Brinkman's case, there's two things that need to be considered. First of all, which AAA guy took that spot. And, second of all, which non-CC was promoted to CC? The MLB.com Umpires section is really slow in getting updated, and the WUA Web site is even worse. They never made any mention of congratulating Craft on his retirement, or Barksdale on his promotion. They didn't even bother to update the crew listings there to reflect that retirement and promotion, not to mention Brinkman's. And their list of AAA guys that worked games is so out-of-date, it's really not funny anymore. I mean, even on the MLB.com Umpires section, they need to change Cuzzi's biography for the 2nd consecutive year to reflect his number change, not to mention spelling Dreckman right. Also, not ever reflected in their AAA roster was the addition for this year of Mike Estabrook. I mean, they did update the crew listings and staff roster to reflect Craft's retirement and Barksdale's promotion. But, again, nothing when it comes to Brinkman. Joe West's site is actually worse. He's been saying the '06 roster is coming soon for practically the entire season, and doesn't even have the AAA roster. His crew listings are, like the WUA ones, from the beginning of the season. Oops, I forgot one thing. Neither the WUA nor Joe West's sites bothered to mention this year's All-Star game crew. The WUA also has a sort of "Ask the Ump" feature. That hasn't been updated in almost two years, as it has T. Welke's crew from '04. Then again, neither has MLB.com updated their rules question column, nor their own "Ask the Ump" column, in quite a while.

If anybody possibly has information on the Brinkman situation, would you mind passing it along? Thanks. And, if you're from one of the Web sites I picked apart above, I hate to say it, but you might want to try and taking most, if not all, of my suggestions.

http://www.forumspile.com/Drama-Captain_McAllister.jpg

mattmets Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:37pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by goyanksgonj
Must be serious evaluation time for AAA guys. Why it would be during, for some teams, the biggest games of the season, is beyond me, but, anyway. I mean, just among CC's, we've got 7 of the 15 with assignments this week taking a back seat, not to mention that there are always two crews on vacation in any given week (BTW, if anyone knows which ones these are for this week, please let me know, thanks). Plus, there's 4 other ones out of the rest of the staff taking a back seat (although, one of those is filling-in as the possible associate CC on another crew, and the other two, between them, I believe, have worked one game the entire year). Now, I guess it's really not fair to talk about Brinkman being taking a back seat, since I believe he's retired, as injuries wouldn't allow him to complete the season. We already had another one of these situations come up earlier this season (Craft), but at least we know already which AAA guy took that spot. In Brinkman's case, there's two things that need to be considered. First of all, which AAA guy took that spot. And, second of all, which non-CC was promoted to CC? The MLB.com Umpires section is really slow in getting updated, and the WUA Web site is even worse. They never made any mention of congratulating Craft on his retirement, or Barksdale on his promotion. They didn't even bother to update the crew listings there to reflect that retirement and promotion, not to mention Brinkman's. And their list of AAA guys that worked games is so out-of-date, it's really not funny anymore. I mean, even on the MLB.com Umpires section, they need to change Cuzzi's biography for the 2nd consecutive year to reflect his number change, not to mention spelling Dreckman right. Also, not ever reflected in their AAA roster was the addition for this year of Mike Estabrook. I mean, they did update the crew listings and staff roster to reflect Craft's retirement and Barksdale's promotion. But, again, nothing when it comes to Brinkman. Joe West's site is actually worse. He's been saying the '06 roster is coming soon for practically the entire season, and doesn't even have the AAA roster. His crew listings are, like the WUA ones, from the beginning of the season. Oops, I forgot one thing. Neither the WUA nor Joe West's sites bothered to mention this year's All-Star game crew. The WUA also has a sort of "Ask the Ump" feature. That hasn't been updated in almost two years, as it has T. Welke's crew from '04. Then again, neither has MLB.com updated their rules question column, nor their own "Ask the Ump" column, in quite a while.

If anybody possibly has information on the Brinkman situation, would you mind passing it along? Thanks. And, if you're from one of the Web sites I picked apart above, I hate to say it, but you might want to try and taking most, if not all, of my suggestions.

Why did you have to send this as 5 PMs to at least me, if not others?

goyanksgonj Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:41pm

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Originally Posted by mattmets
Why did you have to send this as 5 PMs to at least me, if not others?

Simple: It wouldn't fit into one. And, FYI, you were the only one I sent this to as PM's, because I figured you might have insider information that you might be willing to share with individuals, but not with the whole forum.

goyanksgonj Mon Sep 18, 2006 07:11am

I really do have to believe that somebody knows something. Speak now or forever hold your peace.

Rich Mon Sep 18, 2006 09:29am

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Originally Posted by goyanksgonj
I really do have to believe that somebody knows something. Speak now or forever hold your peace.

Who CARES? Well, except the ML umpires who likely will need a restraining order at some point.

UMP25 Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:51am

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Originally Posted by mattmets
Why did you have to send this as 5 PMs to at least me, if not others?

And why must he post this on several different forums as well?

LMan Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:20am

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Originally Posted by goyanksgonj
I really do have to believe that somebody knows something.

I do know something about it.


It was Paul Nauert, in the Ballroom, with the Lead Pipe. Don't tell a soul.

briancurtin Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:05pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by LMan
I do know something about it.


It was Paul Nauert, in the Ballroom, with the Lead Pipe. Don't tell a soul.

best post on this website.

Carbide Keyman Wed Sep 20, 2006 01:45pm

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Originally Posted by LMan
I do know something about it.


It was Paul Nauert, in the Ballroom, with the Lead Pipe. Don't tell a soul.

Tied for the second-best post on the Internet.:D

goyanksgonj Sun Sep 24, 2006 09:42pm

Truthfully, I can't see the harm in answering a few simple questions. Maybe, someone wouldn't mind volunteering a little bit of their time, in order to explain that very concept to me.


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