You said that it didn't deal with the J/R aspect of it, and I just thought it was funny (like the name Julia Gulia was to Robby Hart in The Wedding Singer) that Rick Roder penned the interpretation. I didn't mean anything by my remark.

That wasn't my point.

We can all state "This what I would do, if this is what happened and this is what I saw."

But those who state that the umpire was completely wrong when he made a judgment call that they weren't there to experience are going far beyond that.

Assuming that's not a rhetorical question, since 1976, according to Jim Evans in Baseball Rules Annotated.

Semi-rhetorical. Steve's answer was enough for me, but thanks.

Anybody know where to get the MLB Casebook that I referred to in my earlier post on this thread? It's called the something like the Professional Baseball Umpire Manual or something like that...I can't find the thing anywhere...thanks guys...baseball is almost done for the year here in MN...Amateur state tournament is starting next weekend and goes through Labor Day weekend, then we're done here except for some off and on fall league stuff...anyway, thanks to anybody who can help me find a copy of this manual.