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Peruvian Mon Jul 17, 2006 09:43pm

Is there any doubt that Angel Hernandez...
 
...is the most pompous (sp) A$$ ever after what he did tonight?

So eject the Dodgers' coach, who is in the first base dugout, while standing near the third base coaches box. Fine.

Be the umpire that has a fuse shorter than a knat's a$$. Fine

Don't wear a tee-shirt under your uniform shirt. Fine.

But my gosh, giving the coach's hat to the fan is just bush league, IMO.

For whatever reason he ejected the coach - that's all well and good. But I think the next time Angel gets shown up in the fashion that he showed up the coach tonight, he ought to let him stay.

pdxblue Tue Jul 18, 2006 01:21am

Well, he needed to do SOMETHING with the hat!

ozzy6900 Tue Jul 18, 2006 05:38am

Why are you crying so much aobout a MLB Umpire?

RonRef Tue Jul 18, 2006 08:00am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peruvian
...is the most pompous (sp) A$$ ever after what he did tonight?

So eject the Dodgers' coach, who is in the first base dugout, while standing near the third base coaches box. Fine.

Be the umpire that has a fuse shorter than a knat's a$$. Fine

Don't wear a tee-shirt under your uniform shirt. Fine.

But my gosh, giving the coach's hat to the fan is just bush league, IMO.

For whatever reason he ejected the coach - that's all well and good. But I think the next time Angel gets shown up in the fashion that he showed up the coach tonight, he ought to let him stay.

MLB Umpires are their worst enemies, they have quality umpires in AAA for ten years and keep the not as talented ones in the majors. What other pro sport does that, NONE. The union is too strong for its own good. They should hire the good AAA umpires and fire the MLB that don't have passing grades.

LeftyRef Tue Jul 18, 2006 09:19am

Has anyone read "Verbal Judo"?

From what I saw, Hernandez wasn't out of line.

Come on, they call it "The Show" for a reason.

RonRef Tue Jul 18, 2006 10:07am

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Originally Posted by LeftyRef
Has anyone read "Verbal Judo"?

From what I saw, Hernandez wasn't out of line.

Come on, they call it "The Show" for a reason.


Angel was very calm compared to Bruce Dreckman in the Padres/Braves game on Sunday! I think the hot weather got to Bruce, 4 ejections in one inning!

GarthB Tue Jul 18, 2006 12:11pm

Just got back from my four mile morning walk on the beach. Beautiful weather along Monterey Bay this morning. Yesterday we shot down to Big Sur for margaritas at Nepenthe's overlooking the ocean, had great Mexican food at the Whole Enchilada and got back to the beach house in time for our two mile evening walk on the beach at sunset. Today, I think we'll lie in the sun for for a bit while I review the FED Football rule and casebooks, then go for a bike ride. Dinner tonight will be just a couple of rib-eyes barbecued on the deck. It's a lazy do-nothing kind of day. I'm really looking forward to retiring down here. I need to run into Chris Schwartz. Anybody seen him around the internet lately?

Oh, yeah, Angel Hernandez. As is no secret, Angel was promoted to the majors over several higher rated AAA umpires. Some felt it was evident that MLB paid more attention to diversity than quality.

He has consistently been rated near the bottom of all ML umpires and has a very poor reputation for game management. Picking up the first base coach's cap and giving it to a fan was bush. One way or another, he'll pay for it.

LLPA13UmpDan Tue Jul 18, 2006 01:21pm

He has a rep. for being the worst umpiring in the major leagues...just google his name :D

mattmets Tue Jul 18, 2006 01:22pm

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Originally Posted by GarthB
He has consistently been rated near the bottom of all ML umpires and has a very poor reputation for game management. Picking up the first base coach's cap and giving it to a fan was bush. One way or another, he'll pay for it.

How? By losing his job? Not getting WS assignments, like he did last year?

And btw, very jealous about Big Sur.

LLPA13UmpDan Tue Jul 18, 2006 01:29pm

boy, he's been around a few years...

http://chronicle.augusta.com/images/...98/BRAVES3.jpg

http://www.spudart.org/chicagocubs/umpires/angel.jpg

http://www.spudart.org/chicagocubs/umpires/325argue.jpg

http://www.spudart.org/chicagocubs/u..._angel2001.jpg

http://www.spudart.org/chicagocubs/u...angel_0328.jpg

http://www.spudart.org/chicagocubs/umpires/

bluezebra Tue Jul 18, 2006 02:02pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peruvian
...is the most pompous (sp) A$$ ever after what he did tonight?

So eject the Dodgers' coach, who is in the first base dugout, while standing near the third base coaches box. Fine.

Be the umpire that has a fuse shorter than a knat's a$$. Fine

Don't wear a tee-shirt under your uniform shirt. Fine.

But my gosh, giving the coach's hat to the fan is just bush league, IMO.

For whatever reason he ejected the coach - that's all well and good. But I think the next time Angel gets shown up in the fashion that he showed up the coach tonight, he ought to let him stay.

That nasty umpire ejected a Dodger coach. Probably for nothing at all. By the way, the word is spelled, "gnat", not "knat".

As for giving the cap to a youngster in the stands, I thought that was FANTASTIC. The infantile coach threw his cap at Hernandez. THAT was "bush".

Your bias against umpires, or at least Hernandez is showing.

Bob

GarthB Tue Jul 18, 2006 02:20pm

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Originally Posted by mattmets
How? By losing his job? Not getting WS assignments, like he did last year?

And btw, very jealous about Big Sur.

Back from the beach. Having a light lunch...salad with a side of calamari...before the bike ride.

Certainly the team will file a complaint. If the discipline comes from MLB or WUA you most likely won't hear about it right away, but word will leak out as it has in the past. The players may also dish out some "discipline". They have ways of making an umpire's job difficult without crossing the ejection line.

Angel's post season assignments, in the words of one former MLB umpire, diminishes what honor reamins in the selection. Another example of EOE?

gsf23 Tue Jul 18, 2006 02:24pm

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Originally Posted by bluezebra

Your bias against umpires, or at least Hernandez is showing.

Bob

I'm biased against Hernandez becuase I think he is the worst MLB umpire out there. That's not a bad thing, someone has to be the worst.:D

Peruvian Tue Jul 18, 2006 02:31pm

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Originally Posted by bluezebra

Your bias against umpires, or at least Hernandez is showing.

Bob

MY bias? I've been doing this 'umpiring' thing for about 15 years now at the high school and college level. I don't think my 'bias' is against them.

And another thing, before you start throwing 'obvious bias' tags at people, why don't you research their posts to see where their 'biases' really are, Bob.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluezebra

By the way, the word is spelled, "gnat", not "knat".

And your comma should come before your closed quotes. Whatever.

mcrowder Tue Jul 18, 2006 03:13pm

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Originally Posted by PWL
It's only news until you reveal your source and have proof. Up to that point, it's only a rumor.:(

I don\'t think the word "until" means what you think it does...


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