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Old Fri Jun 30, 2006, 10:09pm
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I'm wondering if it's really worth it to continue to point out the erroneous information he posts on this site any longer. I keep hoping to see some improvement, but I doubt any is forthcoming. Just a thought on a late Friday night.



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Old Fri Jun 30, 2006, 10:18pm
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Tim,

I have this unfortunate tendency to give people the benefit of the doubt. If he were to make a "good faith" post, I would be inclined to respond in kind.

If he were to do otherwise, I would be inclined to completely ignore it.

I guess we'll see.

JM

P.S. Happy Independence Day! I'm working on my Independence Day "quiz" for my children at the moment. A "passing grade" exempts them from being woken up very early that morning by me very LOUDLY reading them the Declaration of Independence. Got any good questions for me?
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Old Fri Jun 30, 2006, 10:30pm
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Hmmmm..

Who was the youngest man to sign the Declaration of Independence?

Who was the oldest?

What two future presidents signed the Declaration?

Who was the President of the Continental Congress at the time of the signing?

How many men signed the Declaration?

What document was used by Thomas Jefferson as a foundation for the Declaration of Independence?



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Old Fri Jun 30, 2006, 11:08pm
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Hmmmm..

Who was the youngest man to sign the Declaration of Independence?

Who was the oldest?

What two future presidents signed the Declaration?

Who was the President of the Continental Congress at the time of the signing?

How many men signed the Declaration?

What document was used by Thomas Jefferson as a foundation for the Declaration of Independence?



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Tim,

1. Can't remember

2. Benjamin Franklin

3. John Adams and Thomas Jefferson

4. Don't know

5. 56

6. Don't know the exact name, but I believe it was the Commonwealth of Virginia declaration.

How'd I do? All of this was "off the top of my head" - I resisted the urge to look it up. Besides, my kids are 16, 14, & 12. I want them to know what the document says & "earn" the right not to have me wake them up really early - so I don't want it to be too hard.

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Old Fri Jun 30, 2006, 11:33pm
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Tim,

1. Can't remember


4. Don't know

JM
1. Edward Rutledge

4. John Hancock
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Old Fri Jun 30, 2006, 11:45pm
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1. Edward Rutledge

4. John Hancock
Tim & Garth,

1. If I remember correctly, the only "signer" who was under the age of 30 at the time. Any relation to JRut ?

4. How embarrassing!! That was an EASY question.

JM

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Old Fri Jun 30, 2006, 11:37pm
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The youngest to sign was Edward Rutledge (26)

John Hancock was the president of the Continental Congress at the time.

You're correct about the Commonwealth of Virgina Declaration.


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Old Fri Jun 30, 2006, 11:59pm
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The youngest to sign was Edward Rutledge (26)

John Hancock was the president of the Continental Congress at the time.

You're correct about the Commonwealth of Virgina Declaration.


Tim.

Although some historians have assumed that the first paragraph of the Virginia Declaration of Rights influenced the Declaration of Indpendence, Jefferson does not credit the it with any kinship. The body of the Virginia Declaration is primarily a listing of 16 rights more similar to the the Bill of Rights contained in the US Constitution.

The Declaration of Independence took the form of a resolution with a list of grievances against the King and a conclusion, albeit without the "Therfore be it resolved," that "declared" the states "are and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States......"
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Old Fri Jun 30, 2006, 10:28pm
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I can't believe I'm saying this, but I understand where JM is coming from. Playing, and coaching, we read the BOOK. Not the commentary, or J/R, or the rest, but the BOOK. For example, a strike is armpits (or letters, or whichever rule) to knees, across the white. Regardless of score, regardless of time, regardless of age.
So, to a coach, THEIR version of the book controls.
If WE, as umpires, cannot EXPLAIN the book to them of course they'll object.
All that being said, my best advice to coaches is listen to your catcher - after all, he's with us all nine.
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Old Sat Jul 01, 2006, 08:31pm
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To answer the original question

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I'm wondering if it's really worth it to continue to point out the erroneous information he posts on this site any longer. I keep hoping to see some improvement, but I doubt any is forthcoming. Just a thought on a late Friday night.

Tim.
Please, continue to post correct answers. I'm sure that there are many lurkers here that should not be allowed to believe false information.

A quick note, with citations to acceptable authority, will do wonders to correct bad answers that come off the top of somebody's head (or other ends of the anatomy).

You need not go into a back and forth personal discussion to meet this goal.
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