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Blue37 Tue Jun 20, 2006 07:52am

Out or no out #2
 
The thread "out or no out" reminded me of a similar discussion several years ago on McGriff. In that discussion, there was a runner on 1st. The batter hit a ball up the middle. The shortstop got to the ball and tagged the base with the ball in his bare hand before the runner arrived.

Assuming nothing but the ball touched the base, do we have an out or not?

mcrowder Tue Jun 20, 2006 08:04am

Please, everyone with a brain stop answering this question. I can't believe this is even an issue ... much less an issue in 9 different threads that comes up in a new one daily. Stupid. Just stupid.

ctblu40 Tue Jun 20, 2006 08:10am

Another question...
 
I've been thinking about another sitch as well....

If a batter swings and misses at a pitch that was not in the strike zone, is it still a strike? :rolleyes:

TwoBits Tue Jun 20, 2006 08:20am

Let's put an end to it once and for all:

If a defensive player has possession of the ball and touches a base in a force out situation with his hand, glove, foot, elbow, head, genetalia, etc. before the runner touches the base, the runner is OUT.

Blue37 Tue Jun 20, 2006 08:51am

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwoBits
Let's put an end to it once and for all:

If a defensive player has possession of the ball and touches a base in a force out situation with his hand, glove, foot, elbow, head, genetalia, etc. before the runner touches the base, the runner is OUT.

I note you failed to include "ball" in your list.

ctblu40 Tue Jun 20, 2006 08:54am

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwoBits
Let's put an end to it once and for all:

If a defensive player has possession of the ball and touches a base in a force out situation with his hand, glove, foot, elbow, head, genetalia, etc. before the runner touches the base, the runner is OUT.


No he didn't...:D

LMan Tue Jun 20, 2006 08:55am

Is the hand part of the glove?

Jurassic Referee Tue Jun 20, 2006 08:56am

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwoBits
Let's put an end to it once and for all:

If a defensive player has possession of the ball and touches a base in a force out situation with his hand, glove, foot, elbow, head, genetalia, etc. before the runner touches the base, the runner is OUT.

Genitalia? I'd pay to see that!

What if his hair only touched the bag?:confused: Out?

PS- don't laugh too quickly. There was a basketball case play put out last year confirming that a player was out-of-bounds if they were lying on the court and their hair touched a side or end line. Seriously.

Jurassic Referee Tue Jun 20, 2006 08:57am

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctblu40
No <font color = red>he</font> didn't...:D

How do you it was a "he"?:confused:

ctblu40 Tue Jun 20, 2006 09:11am

My bad... no (s)he didn't.

Jurassic Referee Tue Jun 20, 2006 09:16am

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctblu40
My bad... no (s)he didn't.

I'd pay to see that too. :D

NIump50 Tue Jun 20, 2006 09:36am

Quote:

Originally Posted by LMan
Is the hand part of the glove?

The question is
Is the ball part of the hand?

If so, then a pitched ball that hits the hands should not be a HBP.:)

wmandino Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:30am

Maybe thats a new "myth" that needs to be exploited. I think the BALL is part of your hand which is totally different than the HANDS being part of the BAT.

pob14 Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:33am

Quote:

Originally Posted by NIump50
The question is
Is the ball part of the hand?

Well, when I was a teenager, mine were . . . .

jwwashburn Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:48am

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwoBits
Let's put an end to it once and for all:

If a defensive player has possession of the ball and touches a base in a force out situation with his hand, glove, foot, elbow, head, genetalia, etc. before the runner touches the base, the runner is OUT.

If he touches the base with his genitals, I am ejecting him. But, there would be an out, first.


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