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Peruvian Tue Jun 13, 2006 08:41am

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickrego
If you think there is a problem with the Strike Zone;[LIST=1][*]Don't talk to an umpire about pitches during an inning. Approach them in between innings.

And while you do this, grab your line up card and discuss your displeasure with the zone while 'making some defensive changes.' ;)

ctblu40 Tue Jun 13, 2006 09:07am

Let the coach show you the rule book on the field?
 
If a coach approaches me about a call my partner makes I simply tell him, "You're talking to the wrong guy. _____(insert partners name) is approachable, go talk to him."

Also, IMO, I don't want a coach pulling out his rulebook on the field and showing me a rule. As an umpire, it is my job to know the rules. If he is adament that there is an interpretation problem, I get with my partner and the umpires discuss it ALONE. No coach is giving me a rules seminar on the field. But you must know the rules...

TussAgee11 Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:06am

Another thing to do when you are talking with an umpire. Don't point at things. Don't speak loudly. The conversation is between me and you. The spectators shouldn't have a clue what is being said. If you start pointing at bases, using gestures with your hands, and its showing me up... wham.

Talk calmly about what you saw. Don't be adament about it. And don't ever point a finger at me, unless you want to get home early for dinner.

BigUmp56 Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:09am

I would suggest you obtain a firm understanding of the application of rule 11.05(g).


Tim.

BlueLawyer Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:19am

Different Cultures, I guess.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mcrowder
Nick, the advice that a coach should call time and approach the umpire in a judgement call is horrible. If a coach thinks an umpire missed a pulled foot or swipe tag, that's one thing... but simply coming out to argue (even nicely) a pure judgement call does nothing but antagonize the umpire, and will get you tossed by some of the old smittys out there. You CAN'T argue judgement calls. Period. This isn't MLB.

I have been trained to allow a coach to call time and approach me, on virtually any subject, as long as he does it respectfully. The book talks about leaving your position to argue balls and strikes is an instant ticket home. Other than that, asking me to explain why I called a kid safe is not going to get you the heave-ho from me. Asking me why I called the kid safe, then after hearing that the tag was high and the kid's foot got the bag before the tag, THEN telling me my judgment sucks- different story.

I respectfully disagree with mrcrowder. There is an element of judgment to almost every call in baseball. Like I said, I'm not changing my judgment call. But you may have a legit gripe, and I should not be such a reda$$ that I can't listen to you. My opinion.

Strikes and outs!


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