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HawkeyeCubP Fri May 26, 2006 01:20pm

Why Do MLB BU's point foul...
 
on caught, foul, fly balls near the foul line?

Toadman15241 Fri May 26, 2006 01:34pm

Scoring purposes

pdxblue Fri May 26, 2006 01:48pm

To signal that the ball was caught in foul territory. If for some reason, the fielder drops the ball, and it is not ruled a catch, WHERE the ball was on contact is important.

HawkeyeCubP Fri May 26, 2006 01:52pm

Thank you for your responses. I had guessed at the dropped ball idea. Also - then is it procedure for MLB umpires to not make the "out" signal on those and other obviously caught fly balls?

TCump84 Fri May 26, 2006 01:55pm

an ordinary effort, routine fly balls are not signaled because everyone obviously knows the ball was caught.

lawump Fri May 26, 2006 01:59pm

As taught at school
 
As taught at umpire school and PBUC camp in 1997:

An umpire's order of priorities in calling a play are:

(1) Fair/Foul
(2) Catch/No-Catch
(3) Safe/Out (on bases)
(4) Other plays

In otherwords, pro umpires are taught to always point fair or foul FIRST. Then, SECOND, they signal catch/No-catch. However, it is perfectly acceptable (in fact it was taught) to make NO catch signal if the catch is made cleanly by the fielder above his belt.

PDX pretty much hit on the head as to why the Fair/Foul is signaled first.

pdxblue Fri May 26, 2006 02:02pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP
Thank you for your responses. I had guessed at the dropped ball idea. Also - then is it procedure for MLB umpires to not make the "out" signal on those and other obviously caught fly balls?

Well, I do know that in the CCA manual, it is stated that an umpire will make a signal for all outs except "routine caught balls". I assume that MLB umpires manual says something similar. I don't remember if the NFHS manual says this or not (our association hasn't really used those mechanics for a few years), but I can't remember ever signaling a routine catch, except to point it fair/foul when caught.

HawkeyeCubP Fri May 26, 2006 02:47pm

Thanks everyone. Good info.


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