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spots101 Wed May 24, 2006 01:35pm

Babe Ruth would've had more home runs
 
Was at a D'Back game last night and was sitting next to a baseball encyclopedia. He said that during the Babe Ruth era balls that curved around (or in back of) the foul pole were called foul instead of fair like they are today. Had never heard of this. Any comments??

GarthB Wed May 24, 2006 07:39pm

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Originally Posted by spots101
Was at a D'Back game last night and was sitting next to a baseball encyclopedia. He said that during the Babe Ruth era balls that curved around (or in back of) the foul pole were called foul instead of fair like they are today. Had never heard of this. Any comments??

Up to around 1930-31 the ball was judged fair/foul at the point "last seen by the umpire." So yes, the Babe probably had some homeruns ruled foul balls.

However, he was compensated by the fact that until the same time batted balls that bounced over the fence were called home runs. So he got credit for some home runs that would be ground rule doubles today.

Probably balanced out.

dave30 Wed May 24, 2006 07:48pm

There was an article the other day that said based on the size of ball parks in that era, Babe Ruth would have hit over 1150 homeruns ! He had a lot of 450 foot outs.

mick Wed May 24, 2006 09:33pm

1150 +
 
http://www.c-n.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art...605210383/1011

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greymule Wed May 24, 2006 09:41pm

So he got credit for some home runs that would be ground rule doubles today.

They did award home runs on what today would be ground rule doubles, but I seem to remember reading that Babe Ruth did not get any such home runs. But I would not swear to it. The truth must be on the Web somewhere.

NIump50 Thu May 25, 2006 11:11am

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Originally Posted by PWL
I did read a book that said he actually lost home runs because the run around the bases was too far for him. He couldn't complete the "home run trot" so to speak".:o

He was so out of shape he couldn't make it.:(

perhaps out of laziness he allowed some walkoff homeruns to go as singles if the winning run scored ahead of him. Short of that I can't believe he didn't complete the trip.

JIGGY Thu May 25, 2006 02:15pm

Can't help it...
 
Regardless, Babe Ruth was not HALF the hitter that Barry Bonds is!

Carbide Keyman Thu May 25, 2006 03:48pm

huh ?!?.............................
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PWL
I did read a book that said he actually lost home runs because the run around the bases was too far for him. He couldn't complete the "home run trot" so to speak".:o

He was so out of shape he couldn't make it.:(


Reference, please ?



Doug

NIump50 Thu May 25, 2006 05:12pm

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Originally Posted by JIGGY
Regardless, Babe Ruth was not HALF the hitter that Barry Bonds is!

When Bonds was HALF his current size he wasn't twice the batter Ruth was.
I'm not conceding that he is now either. The debate can never be decisively won, but I choose not to give a cheater and soon to be felon many kudos.
Though I appreciate your opinion, I doubt you have much more than familiarity with Bonds to base it on.

NIump50 Thu May 25, 2006 05:28pm

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Originally Posted by JIGGY
Regardless, Babe Ruth was not HALF the hitter that Barry Bonds is!

A few quick comparative stats.

Games AB AVG OBP 2b 3b K RBI

Ruth 2503 8398 .342 .474 506 136 1330 2217

Bonds 2730 9140 .300 .442 564 77 1430 1853

hmmmm
I think the stats speak for themselves. To say Ruth is half the hitter Bonds is probably not a defensible position.
IMHO

LakeErieUmp Thu May 25, 2006 05:51pm

Don't waste your typing-breath NI - anyone who would make such a ridiculous statement has taken too many fouls to the facemask.

Clint Lawson Sat May 27, 2006 11:42am

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Originally Posted by JIGGY
Regardless, Babe Ruth was not HALF the hitter that Barry Bonds is!

This may be the dumbest thing ever posted on this website and that is saying a lot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NFump Sat May 27, 2006 11:46am

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Originally Posted by Clint Lawson
This may be the dumbest thing ever posted on this website and that is saying a lot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Check out anything posted by SAump and you'll reevaluate that statement.;)

pdxblue Sat May 27, 2006 12:35pm

Pitching in Ruth's era was ridiculously too easy to hit. If Bonds and Ruth had to switch era's to bat in, Bonds would have about 3000 home runs, and Ruth might have 50!

NFump Sat May 27, 2006 01:02pm

Congratulations! You've just won the Most Idiotic Post award!


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