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your boss Fri May 05, 2006 11:13am

Minor league baseball
 
Here is contact information for all the minor leagues. If you are a college umpire and want to work after your season is over you should contact them today. This is not a joke, at some levels they will travel more experienced guys. Pay and travel is set by each league. Forward this to all your partners.






Appalachian League
Rookie Advanced
Mailing Address: 283 Deerchase Circle, Statesville, NC 28625
Telephone: (704) 873-5300
Fax: (704) 873-4333
Email Address: [email protected]


Arizona League
Mailing Address: P.O. Box 1645, Boise, ID 83701
Telephone: (208) 429-1511
Fax: (208) 429-1525
Email Address: [email protected].

President: Bob Richmond
Administrative Assistant: Rob Richmond


California League
Office Address: 2380 S Bascom Ave., Suite 200, Campbell, CA 95008
Telephone: (408) 369-8038
Fax: (408) 369-1409
Email Address: [email protected]
Website: http://www.californialeague.com
Years League Active: 1941-1942, 1946-

President/Treasurer: Joe Gagliardi


Carolina League
Office Address: 1806 Pembroke Rd., Greensboro, NC 27408
Mailing Address: P.O. Box 9503, Greensboro, NC 27429
Telephone: (336) 691-9030
Fax: (336) 691-9070
Email Address: [email protected]
Website: http://www.carolinaleague.com
Years League Active: 1945-

President/Treasurer: John Hopkins






Eastern League
Office Address: 30 Danforth Street, Suite 208, Portland, ME 04101
Mailing Address: P.O. Box 9711, Portland, ME 04104
Telephone: (207) 761-2700
Fax: (207) 761-7064
EMail Address: [email protected]
Website: http://www.easternleague.com
Years League Active: 1923-

President: Joseph McEacharn


Florida State League
President-Treasurer-Chairman
Chuck Murphy
P.O. Box 349
Daytona Beach, FL 32115
(386) 252-7479
[email protected]



Gulf Coast League
President: Tom Saffell
Mailing Address: 1503 Clower Creek Drive, Suite H262, Sarasota, FL 34231
Telephone: (941) 966-6407
Fax: (941) 966-6872





International League
Randy Mobley
Office Address:
55 South High St.
Suite 202
Dublin, Ohio 43017
Telephone: (614) 791-9300 Fax: (614) 791-9009 Web Address: www.ilbaseball.com

The Midwest League of Professional Baseball Clubs, Inc.
George H. Spelius
P.O. Box 936
Beloit, Wisconsin 53512-0936
(608) 364-1188
(608) 364-1913 FAX
Web Site: www.midwestleague.com
Email: [email protected]


New York-Penn League
Ben Hayes
One Progress Plaza
200 Central Avenue, Suite 2300
St. Petersburg, Florida 33701-4352
Telephone: (727) 576-6300
Fax: (727) 822-3768

Northwest League
Mailing Address: P.O. Box 1645, Boise, ID 83701
Telephone: (208) 429-1511
Fax: (208) 429-1525
Website: http://www.northwestleague.com
Years League Active: 1901-02 (Pacific Northwest), 1903-04 (Pacific National), 1905-18 (Northwestern), 1919-22 (Pacific Coast International), 1937-1954 (Western International), 1955-

President/Treasurer: Bob Richmond

Pacific Coast League
Branch Rickey
1631 Mesa Avenue, Suite A,
Colorado Springs, Colorado 80906
Telephone: (719) 636-3399
Fax: (719) 636-1199
Email Address: [email protected]


Pioneer League
Jim McCurdy
Office Add: Steam Plant Square, 157 South Lincoln Street, Spokane, WA 99201
Mailing Address: P.O. Box 2564, Spokane, WA 99220
Telephone: (509) 456-7615
Fax: (509) 456-0136
Email Address: [email protected]
Website: http://www.pioneerleague.com


South Atlantic League
John Moss
Office Address: 504 Crescent Hill, Kings Mountain, NC 28086
Mailing Address: P.O. Box 38, Kings Mountain, NC 28086
Telephone: (704) 739-3466
Fax: (704) 739-1974
Email Address: [email protected]
Website: http://www.southatlanticleague.com



Southern League
Don Mincher
Mailing Address: 2551 Roswell Road, Suite 330, Marietta, GA 30062
Telephone: (770) 321-0400
Fax: (770) 321-0037
Email Address: [email protected]
Website: http://www.southernleague.com


Texas League
Tom Kayser
Address: 2442 Facet Oak, San Antonio, TX 78232
Telephone: (210) 545-5297
Fax: (210) 545-5298
Website: http://www.texas-league.com
Email Address: [email protected]

SanDiegoSteve Fri May 05, 2006 02:01pm

Wow, thanks for the cool web sites!!

PanamaCityBrian Fri May 05, 2006 02:21pm

Although I think that is a really neat post with all the information. I do believe this is going to start one ugly thread of people bashing about scabs (IMHO). So maybe everyone can keep that to a limit. ;) I would really appreciate it there are enough posts about that subject.

umpduck11 Fri May 05, 2006 06:31pm

Outstanding ! It's like 411 for "scabs". :D

JIGGY Fri May 05, 2006 07:02pm

Why?
 
So...

It has been said often as a defense of those Scabs who chose to cross, "every man has to make his own decision." That is fine. I agree. But why would you choose to encourage others to scab?

UNDERSTAND THAT IF YOU GO TO WORK MINOR LEAGUE GAMES YOU ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING NOBLE, YOU ARE SIMPLY DOING SOMETHING SELFISH- BEING A SCAB! No matter how "good" you think you do, or how bad MiLB says they need you, you will not have a job in professional baseball when the union guys come back to work! (and for those of you who think the union will be busted-wrong- but even if it was the scabs will not "earn" any spots for next year, MiLB and PBUC will re-hire qualified umpires and canidates from the schools)

SanDiegoSteve Fri May 05, 2006 07:20pm

Oh, give it a freakin' rest, will ya. Jeez......

briancurtin Fri May 05, 2006 07:39pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by PanamaCityBrian
Although I think that is a really neat post with all the information. I do believe this is going to start one ugly thread of people bashing about scabs (IMHO). So maybe everyone can keep that to a limit. ;) I would really appreciate it there are enough posts about that subject.

people come here to spew whatever they possibly can, and they are not being stopped.

PanamaCityBrian Fri May 05, 2006 07:40pm

Guys let's just let this post be as it is. It is information for people who want to work MiLB that is it. No other SCAB comments are neccesary we understand.

Peruvian Fri May 05, 2006 08:29pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JIGGY

No matter how "good" you think you do, or how bad MiLB says they need you, you will not have a job in professional baseball when the union guys come back to work!

No kidding. I would say 95% of those working MiLB games have absolutely ZERO aspirations of working full time. Why would they want to go from making 65,000/yr to making peanuts? Most of 'em can't wait till the regular guys come back anyway - it's the regular guys' place to be there. They are the most qualified to work them.

D-Man Fri May 05, 2006 09:46pm

Never say never!
 
Hey, don't be so sure about replacements or "scabs" not getting a shot at pro ball. A realistic possibility exists that local umpire associations (probably collegiate but not necesarily) may take over short season A ball and possibly all of single A level PORFESSIONAL baseball after this all hashes out. Stay tuned......

D-Man

SanDiegoSteve Fri May 05, 2006 09:51pm

Hey D-Man!!!

Do you think I could get a job in this "PORFESSIONAL" baseball?

BenedictArnold Fri May 05, 2006 10:36pm

I think it says a lot about your abilities if you have to contact the leagues to get games. My goodness, getting high school games is harder.

Whoever started this post should be ashamed of yourself. You are worse than a SCAB. What umpire school did you attend, I am sure they didn't get selected for PBUC.

Anyone considering using this list, remember that you will never take their jobs. Where I come from, you do not go looking for the next level. If you are good enough to be there they would find you.

briancurtin Fri May 05, 2006 10:53pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenedictArnold
Anyone considering using this list, remember that you will never take their jobs. Where I come from, you do not go looking for the next level. If you are good enough to be there they would find you.

the guys working these games probably know its only temporary. they dont appear to be working these in hopes of getting into the bigs, they are doing it to make a buck and keep baseball going. whether or not that is the right thing to do, im not touching on that anymore. of course this has been said hundreds, and hundreds, and hundreds of times before...

also, where you come from, no one would go anywhere after high school.

SAump Fri May 05, 2006 10:54pm

Location, Location, Location
 
"Hey, don't be so sure about replacements or "scabs" not getting a shot at pro ball. A realistic possibility exists that local umpire associations (probably collegiate but not necesarily) may take over short season A ball and possibly all of single A level PORFESSIONAL baseball after this all hashes out. Stay tuned......"

Sure seems like local associations in Florida and Arizona have the best shot.

WhatWuzThatBlue Sat May 06, 2006 12:11am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenedictArnold
I think it says a lot about your abilities if you have to contact the leagues to get games. My goodness, getting high school games is harder.

Whoever started this post should be ashamed of yourself. You are worse than a SCAB. What umpire school did you attend, I am sure they didn't get selected for PBUC.

Anyone considering using this list, remember that you will never take their jobs. Where I come from, you do not go looking for the next level. If you are good enough to be there they would find you.

The last two lines were brilliant. So you mean you were recruited to attend professional school? The PBUC boys swooped down out of the sky and plucked you from your local rec field?

Can't...stop...laughing...stop...it...hurts...too. ..much!

Any umpire who dreams of becoming a MLB umpire needs to attend a professional school. Very few enrollees go there because they couldn't figure out what to do wth their lives and figured that they had a few grand to waste. Logic is wasted on you.

SanDiegoSteve Sat May 06, 2006 12:36am

Quote:

Originally Posted by MPHump
You SCUMBAG F..k

That's what your mom said too. BTW, do you eat with that mouth?

briancurtin Sat May 06, 2006 01:02am

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhatWuzThatBlue
The last two lines were brilliant. So you mean you were recruited to attend professional school? The PBUC boys swooped down out of the sky and plucked you from your local rec field?

yeah i thought that was hilarious. if everything went by his rules, no one would do anything after high school.

BenedictArnold Sat May 06, 2006 08:37am

You know what Jeff....or I mean WWTB, (I wouldn't want to reveal your identity since you obviously don't want people to know who you are) You don't get recruited for professional baseball...YOU GET SELECTED! Get your facts straight. You compete against every other umpire out there that wants to get into professional baseball. So what is the difference between getting recruited and getting selected? I thought you might ask.

When someone goes to umpire school it is an investment. Granted it is a poor one with their pay, but you are investing in your abilities as an umpire and your willingness to be challenged. Here is a question for you and who ever else wants to argue that there may be opening in pro ball next year for these scabs...

If they won't reveal your names now, how proud do you think they are that you are on their field?

"Where I come from" as you computer umpires like to jump on the little things I say, you don't hide from what you are doing. My understanding of the system is a little different than some folks. Where I come from you climb your way to AA and then get promoted to AAA. Where you come from you work a game near your house and then you call the PCL or the IL to get to AAA. In either case one thing is for sure, not a single replacement umpire will remain in AA or AAA next season because they will be where they belong, either sitting in the stands or telling all their family and friends how they are as good as the pro guys because they scabbed and never heard a single argument. Very proud their families must be.

One last thing...for the good of the game they scab? Wow, now that is profound. You (WWTB) come on here and you speak so clearly about your contacts in baseball. You are nothing but a mole, and you clearly have an agenda against the AMLU. If you think for one second that a replacement umpire walks on that field for any other reason than a selfish one, then you are sorely mistaken. You may be right about some of the things that have taken place. That tells me that you have some sources. Maybe they call you Windy, or WWTB...but you and I both know exactly who you are. Before you cast any more stones remember that others have sources too. I know you think you got a raw deal from the AMLU. But what good are you serving now for the road that you traveled down? These guys are replacements, yes. But don't glorify what they are doing. They are trying to do a job they were not trained to do. They are trying to answer their own questions whenever they watched a MLB game and said "I can do that." They are trying to justify that if they had gone to umpire school when they were in their early 20's that they would have made it.

There is no pride in this assignment. There is no glory in this assignment. And I do believe that the Texas league issued advisements to their club personnel stating that if umpires don't show that coaches must be prepared to work the bases as umpires. I think that in itself lets every scab know exactly where they stand with baseball. First we issue a gag order on you...now we ask you to umpire. At least the coaches are out there using their names.

Jeff...watch what you say. You are a bottom feeder and you obviously are upset with your situation in departing from pro baseball. Now go ahead and post a reply and make fun of the things I have said. That is fine. I too have many friends in the pro game. I gracefully left when the writing was on the wall. And I will not post my name on this board because it will only be dragged through the mud by a bunch of internet umpires that remain as mysterious as the replacement umpires. Now that is guilty by association if I ever heard of it.

Benedict

MrB Sat May 06, 2006 11:32am

Benedict,

What about the guys that worked their way up to AA and AAA and got out and are working now. Did they earn and do they have the ability to work AA and AAA ball?

BenedictArnold Sat May 06, 2006 01:58pm

Under the circumstances, no. All I can say is that I am a former AAA umpire and I would never cross that line. Othersmay have their reasons, but I have yet to hear one that isn't selfish. I know of one guy that is working out east who is a recently released AAA umpire. He is losing a lot of respect from a lot of people. I can tell you one thing...I will be able to say that my last professional game was one I worked with pride. No excuses, just pride. I do not think that any retired minor league umpire that is currently working can say the same.

Sorry about the editorializing. To simply answer your question, no it is not ok. They had their time in the game and got out. Either they left on their own accord or they were released. Either way, it does not justify it in my eyes.

Thatballzlow Sun May 07, 2006 08:03pm

Look, Benedict is right...I, too, am a former AAA crew chief who was in the same boat he was in. I would LOVE to go work some games, but I would never sacrifice my integrity to do it. Knowing how much money I put up just so I could walk out on the field in my hometown stadium and say, "Hey, I just worked in the .... League...if I knew I could do NOTHING to earn it, I would ask everybody working to give me my money back...what a waste

Oh, PS...Benedict, when you said WWTB's name was Jeff...I just about peed my pants...I know EXACTLY who he is now...woohoohahaha...I think I might know who you are, too...but I'll keep that a secret

WhatWuzThatBlue Mon May 08, 2006 07:06pm

You guys are totally clueless about my identity and why the AMLU boys are being castigated.

BenedictArnold Mon May 08, 2006 10:21pm

WWTB,

Clueless about your identity? Not this time. You still have not changed. You still throw those big words out there to try and sound smart. Just remember that each time you try to undermine the AMLU leadership we see right through it. I still have a lot of friends in baseball. I am not going to go public with your identity. But don't think for one second that I am going to sit back and let you take your cheap shots from the peanut gallery. You are just as bad as the guys in the dugout, just like I said earlier, who wait until the pitch is coming in to yell at the umpire. But just remember this, you may not see who is saying it, but you recognize the voice. So go ahead and continue to use your big words and try to sound smart. Your voice still sounds the same. I know exactly who you are and I am going to tell every one of the guys I still talk to exactly the kind of person you are. You get your information from people in the game because they think you are their friend. Wait until I get it out there that you are the infamous windy...WWTB...bottom feeder who posts on the internet to make yourself feel better. You are overmatched here. I was better than you as an umpire and I am better than you in this argument. Keep trying to hide in the shadows. The ironic thing is that you are going to end up with the same MO you had from baseball. Smart guy, but can't be trusted. Big shock there...some things will never change. Hey Jeff. Game Over!

jwwashburn Tue May 09, 2006 02:58am

Mr. Arnold,

Let me see if I understand your position(and the position of many AMLU supporters) correctly.

The guys working MiLB in 2006 are selfish because they are getting paid money to work games that AMLU members won't work.

The AMLU guys are noble because they are refusing to work unless they get more money.

Joe

your boss Tue May 09, 2006 07:05am

AMLU scabs
 
Joe -

Don't forget that is also their position that striking AMLU umpires can work high school and college games during their strike. Ever heard of that from a real union? Do a google search for Ray Gregson. Look for box scores and see how many games that his assignors are giving him this spring.

If one of these AMLU guys had a brain they would want more of the qualified college umpires to work "their" games in MiLB so they could scab more of "our" higher paying college games.

3appleshigh Tue May 09, 2006 10:48am

This is you

"You all are SCABS" "You Suck Rocks..."

This is what we hear

"Waaaaaaa, Waaaaaa, Waaaaaaa, Baby needs his diaper changed, Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!"

The umpires are not part of a union, a union provides security for it members, This has never been done. NEVER!!! The umpires are part of a useless urganization that deals in politics to promote and fires willy nilly. The association IS A JOKE!

mbyron Tue May 09, 2006 10:57am

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3appleshigh
This is you

"You all are SCABS" "You Suck Rocks..."

This is what we hear

"Waaaaaaa, Waaaaaa, Waaaaaaa, Baby needs his diaper changed, Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!"

The umpires are not part of a union, a union provides security for it members, This has never been done. NEVER!!! The umpires are part of a useless urganization that deals in politics to promote and fires willy nilly. The association IS A JOKE!

Hey apples, tell us how you REALLY feel.

briancurtin Tue May 09, 2006 11:22am

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3appleshigh
"Waaaaaaa, Waaaaaa, Waaaaaaa, Baby needs his diaper changed, Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!"

http://www.sweetwaterhsa.com/~terryc/Waambulance.jpg

LMan Tue May 09, 2006 12:03pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by briancurtin

I don't care who you are, that's funny as hell :D

dokeeffe Mon May 15, 2006 01:32pm

Fair?
 
There is never going to be agreement over replacement umpires in MiLB. I have friends that are ex AMLU who are working as replacements and others who wouldn't think of it. I know college umpires who will work as replacements and others who won't.

An interesting dichotomy does seem to develop when striking MiLB umpires accept college or high school assignments that, in effect, take games away from those umpires with no desire to pursue the elusive majors. Fair?

One thing is for sure: The days of "brothers in arms" is certainly over for what was once a fairly close umpire (at all levels) family.

SanDiegoSteve Mon May 15, 2006 01:41pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by dokeeffe
One thing is for sure: The days of "brothers in arms" is certainly over for what was once a fairly close umpire (at all levels) family.

Actually, we finally found out in no uncertain terms how the minor league umpires, fresh out of pro school and wet-behind-the-ears, really and truly felt about us "amateur" or "local charlie" umpires. They never really considered us as "brothers in arms," but rather as a bunch of smitties, regardless of our vast knowledge of the game and our years of battle on the diamond.

Their viewpoint concerning amateurs is without merit, as I personally have worked with a few pro school graduates who couldn't carry my mask to home plate.

His High Holiness Mon May 15, 2006 03:06pm

They are not my brothers!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dokeeffe
One thing is for sure: The days of "brothers in arms" is certainly over for what was once a fairly close umpire (at all levels) family.

Another shameless advertisement:

Actually, this "brotherhood" has been more or less a fiction for years. The strike has only made the schism more visable. Read my series of articles for details.

Peter

socalblue1 Mon May 15, 2006 04:41pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by His High Holiness
Another shameless advertisement:

Actually, this "brotherhood" has been more or less a fiction for years. The strike has only made the schism more visable. Read my series of articles for details.

Peter

I would argue that it very much depends upon what part of the country one lives. In SoCal we have very few MiLB or MLB umpires living here, so the opportunity for interaction is limited. In other areas the releationship is quite good, esp. where the MiLB umpire(s) worked out of a local organization before pro ball. Other areas - well, frankly it can be ugly.

From my experience, a poor relationship often goes to a lack of understanding & communication between the groups. I have heard many MiLB AND NCAA umpires comment that while doing clinics for HS or college level umpires they often do not see the drive or desire that they have come to expect, which leads to a lack of respect in many cases.

bobbybanaduck Mon May 15, 2006 11:16pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve
Their viewpoint concerning amateurs is without merit, as I personally have worked with a few pro school graduates who couldn't carry my mask to home plate.

Steve,

There are numerous lightweight masks available. Maybe if you invested in one it would be easier for the newbies to carry it for you. Also, if your mask is as heavy as you imply, one of the lighter ones may take a lot of unnecessary pressure off of your neck. Just a thought.

briancurtin Mon May 15, 2006 11:33pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbybanaduck
Steve,

There are numerous lightweight masks available. Maybe if you invested in one it would be easier for the newbies to carry it for you. Also, if your mask is as heavy as you imply, one of the lighter ones may take a lot of unnecessary pressure off of your neck. Just a thought.

he wasnt talking about the weight of his mask there

jwwashburn Mon May 15, 2006 11:56pm

I think yer right...it was a hyberaphore.

bobbybanaduck Tue May 16, 2006 12:55am

apparently i wasn't laying the sarcasm on think enough for you, brian...i'll try harder next time.

briancurtin Tue May 16, 2006 01:50am

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbybanaduck
apparently i wasn't laying the sarcasm on think enough for you, brian...i'll try harder next time.

i didnt get the memo, i was in serious-mode.


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