Interesting Photo

SanDiegoSteve

Sorry, I didn't re-read the previous page. I thought you just decided to start posting articles. My bad.

bobbybanaduck

apology graciously accepted. 😀

WhatWuzThatBlue

Uh, oh...you mean there were complaints about the strike zone???

Someone call Eric Gregg and see if he can help. 😉

The complaints about inconsistent strike zone coverage are as old as the game. I can't believe that is the article you chose to post. Interviewing a skipper after a loss and he claims that he can't recall a worse strike zone...lah me!

bobbybanaduck

The point of posting the articles was to satisfy YOUR request to show articles that aren't tight-lipped about the officiating.

Originally Posted by WhatWuzThatBlue
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Has anyone encountered a legitimate news story concerning the performance of the replacement umpires? I've only seen a few and all deal with the issue and have kind words about the new arbiters.

jwwashburn

bobbybanaduck wrote
http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060419/SPORTS/604190376/1002

Roasted umps: The Huntsville Stars pointed at two plays that could have changed the outcome of the Biscuits' 6-1 win Tuesday.

One was an apparent blown call by an umpire.

A foul call on an apparent home run by Huntsville's Greg Sain had the Stars and Biscuits talking about the replacement umpires.

######## up fair/foul on a home run? THESE NEW minor League umpires are ready for MLB postseason!

Is it twice or three times in the past few years that they missed a fair/foul on a home run---IN A SIX MAN CREW!

This sky is not falling like the AMLU brass told the AMLU members that it would. When you are a union member, NEVER let the Union management decide whether there will be a strike. In most cases, the brass still get paid.

Joe

PWL

moorg wrote
As seen in tonights Texas League AA game.

They say the camera add ten pounds. My question is how many cameras were on this guy?:eek:

A wonder bra would have been a good fit here. LIFT AND SEPERATE

PWL

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"I hope when I start running, my thighs don't rub together. If they do they might cause a spark. Then I could cut one and set my *** on fire".

WhatWuzThatBlue

PWL wrote
They say the camera add ten pounds. My question is how many cameras were on this guy?:eek:

A wonder bra would have been a good fit here. LIFT AND SEPERATE

That photo was posted days ago on the AMLU site and was even discussed here. Someone wanted to know if they were sporting commemorative hats for the season home openers. I'm curious how it was from last night when it is more than four days old?

For what it's worth, I acknowledge his conditioning isn't that of a twenty four year old. From what I remember those twenty four year old walked out. Do those extra pounds effect his eyesight and judgement? Just asking...

cbfoulds

WhatWuzThatBlue wrote
Uh, oh...you mean there were complaints about the strike zone???

Someone call Eric Gregg and see if he can help. 😉

The complaints about inconsistent strike zone coverage are as old as the game. I can't believe that is the article you chose to post. Interviewing a skipper after a loss and he claims that he can't recall a worse strike zone...lah me!

Hey Windy/WWTB: lighten up. You asked for "legitimate news stories" [or some such verbiage.]

THE POINT IS [and you can't imagine how sorry I am to say this]: MiLB management doesn't give a rat's rump what minor league players think - heck, the pay and working conditions of players in MiLB is ALMOST as bad as for the umps- the only way the AMLU "wins" this strike is if a whole bunch of other unions start adding to the pressure [electricians who won't turn on the lights, Teansters who won't drive the trucks - that sort of thing], or if the public statrts to play [no backsides in seats]. I think it was, well...you... that wrote: management would prefer to take what they are getting [in terms of officiating] than give the umpires what they want. [or some such verbiage]

Management apparently feels they can adequately evaluate "apprentice" players without the input from "apprentice" officials; and that paying customers won't care if the "product" is inferior due to the absence of adequate officials, probably because the customers won't recognise that there is a difference.

I support the AMLU, but I'm pretty sure they're toast.

moorg

WhatWuzThatBlue wrote
That photo was posted days ago on the AMLU site and was even discussed here. Someone wanted to know if they were sporting commemorative hats for the season home openers. I'm curious how it was from last night when it is more than four days old?

As I took the photo I can speak for it. That photo was taken on Friday, April 14th in San Antonio, TX. I only posted that image here. It was not opening night. There were no special event being celebrated at the ballpark that night. The first and third base umpires wore identical hats. The home plate umpire wore a solid navy fitted cap without any logos.

Where else was this photo posted a discussed? I would like to read any discussion related to this image so that I can clear up any speculation. I was under the impression that you could not browse the AMLU forums unless you are a current minor league umpire.

PWL

WhatWuzThatBlue wrote
That photo was posted days ago on the AMLU site and was even discussed here. Someone wanted to know if they were sporting commemorative hats for the season home openers. I'm curious how it was from last night when it is more than four days old?

For what it's worth, I acknowledge his conditioning isn't that of a twenty four year old. From what I remember those twenty four year old walked out. Do those extra pounds effect his eyesight and judgement? Just asking...

I don't know about all that. You might have to stop the game for a few minutes while he catches his breath if he has to take a triple into third or if he has to go out on a trouble ball to right and bust back to the plate.

As for his eyesight and judgment, it looks likes his eyes light up every time he sees an all you can eat buffet. Then he uses poor judgement on when to stop. Pause. Read. Fill up two plates at the same time so as to not have to make unnecessary times back to the buffet table.

BTW-He probably buys his uniforms from Thornton Melon.😃

SanDiegoSteve

moorg wrote
I was under the impression that you could not browse the AMLU forums unless you are a current minor league umpire.

That is correct. Too bad it doesn't go both ways.:rolleyes:

mick

PWL wrote
I don't know about all that. You might have to stop the game for a few minutes while he catches his breath if he has to take a triple into third or if he has to go out on a trouble ball to right and bust back to the plate.

As for his eyesight and judgment, it looks likes his eyes light up every time he sees an all you can eat buffet. Then he uses poor judgement on when to stop. Pause. Read. Fill up two plates at the same time so as to not have to make unnecessary times back to the buffet table.

BTW-He probably buys his uniforms from Thornton Melon.😃

Please, let's give this a rest.
That man may be the nicest, most giving person in the world.
At a 188 #, my eyes light up at any "all you can eat buffet" and always have.

mick

SanDiegoSteve

I agree. While I am not as large as the man in the photo, I have never yet had a batter-runner, including Jacque Jones, ever beat me to third on a naked triple, or had any trouble busting back to the plate after going out. The minimal amount of running involved in umpiring, as compared with other sports, is a joke, and any ambulatory person should have no trouble getting to their plays.

PWL

mick wrote
Please, let's give this a rest.
That man may be the nicest, most giving person in the world.
At a 188 #, my eyes light up at any "all you can eat buffet" and always have.

mick

Mick,

He can't be that nice or giving or he wouldn't in my estimation be out on that field. I have all the respect in the world for any person that is willing to stand up and fight for their rights and beliefs, no matter what the cost. That includes any union or non union person. Until these so called "replacements" are willing to work under the same conditions the AMLU guys were, then they are just fooling themselves and everyone into thinking they are performing a service. They need to work for the same low pay, drive all night to their next game, and live off a crappy per diem. Instead, they enjoy the luxuries of sleeping in their own bed and being home with their families at night. Probably making more per game as extra incentive. In my eyes it's not that they are out there umpiring, it's the fact that this probably the only picket line they are willing to cross.

I don't think they would be beating down the doors to be garbage men, truck drivers, welders. painters, carpenters, or walk the high steel. Not to mention working in the steel mills and coal mines. So why the get out there and feel the need to umpire a game for a few extra bucks and the ego rush it must provide for them. "Hey, look at me. I'm on a field with real professional ball players." That doesn't and wouldn't ever cut it for me. I have too much respect for anyone that gets up, goes to work everyday, and does a good job no matter how menial in nature it is considered to be.

BTW-That picture isn't SAump is it? Just kidding SA. Luv ya man. I enjoy your posts even if some don't.🙂

On a side note. If that guy is a TASO official and was in my association, I would block him and any other official that did the same. About the only people he will be working with will be his own fellow scabs and the newbies that come in. He may never see a varsity field again if he has even seen one before.

mick

PWL wrote
Mick,

He can't be that nice or giving or he wouldn't in my estimation be out on that field. I have all the respect in the world for any person that is willing to stand up and fight for their rights and beliefs, no matter what the cost. That includes any union or non union person.

PWL,
I find it really hard to believe that man is working minor league ball with that git-up.
Are you sure that's a legit picture ? Was a source given for the photo? I missed it if it was.
mick

BigUmp56

moorg wrote
As I took the photo I can speak for it. That photo was taken on Friday, April 14th in San Antonio, TX. I only posted that image here. It was not opening night. There were no special event being celebrated at the ballpark that night. The first and third base umpires wore identical hats. The home plate umpire wore a solid navy fitted cap without any logos.

Where else was this photo posted a discussed? I would like to read any discussion related to this image so that I can clear up any speculation. I was under the impression that you could not browse the AMLU forums unless you are a current minor league umpire.

Mick:

I think this post speaks to your question.

Tim.

SanDiegoSteve

PWL wrote
On a side note. If that guy is a TASO official and was in my association, I would block him and any other official that did the same. About the only people he will be working with will be his own fellow scabs and the newbies that come in. He may never see a varsity field again if he has even seen one before.

And by what means would an umpire of your caliber accomplish this? I am quite certain, based on your lack of maturity and umpiring knowledge, that you have never been put in a position of authority in an umpire association.

Before you mods have a heart attack here, I am just referring to the many examples that he has provided here. I mean no personal attack, just wondering how he figures to block any umpires.

mick

BigUmp56 wrote
Mick:

I think this post speaks to your question.

Tim.

Yes, Tim.
It does. Thanks.

None the less, I am hoping we can let the weighty issues go away.
Discussing philosophies is fine.

mick

BigUmp56

This is one of those rare times I understand why PWL has said some of the things he's said. I don't like it but I do understand some of it. This is an extremely passionate issue that in someway or another affects us all. That being the union -vs- non union issue that's at hand. In my opinion that's the real underlying theme here. It's not so much an amatuer -vs- professional umpire debate. Because of this, comments are bound to be cast around that serve only to inflame, rather than educate. Truthfully, I half expected to see much worse behavior here when young members of the AMLU began posting. Not because I expected them to be the ones providing the problem, but because it seems to be in our nature as officials to disagree pretty adamantly over the Net. We tend to argue like step childern with a sibling when challenged here on a rules interpretation. Throwing an intense political situation into the mix should make for some volatile discussion. All that being said, I agree with you, Mick. The mans girth, age, race, or religious affiliation should be left out of the conversation.

Tim.

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