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MrB Sat Apr 08, 2006 02:07am

Why were they working 3-man in San Fran Tonight?
 
Anyone know why? Will there be a fill-in there for tomorrow if they are able to play?

maineblue Sat Apr 08, 2006 08:46pm

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Originally Posted by MrB
Anyone know why? Will there be a fill-in there for tomorrow if they are able to play?

Reliford is injured. There was a fill-in umpire added to the crew today. This is per the TBS (Atlanta Braves) announcers.

scottyman51 Sat Apr 08, 2006 10:22pm

Reliford is injured again,he didnt work the past two months of last season because he was injured.

goyanksgonj Sun Apr 09, 2006 08:02pm

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Originally Posted by maineblue
Reliford is injured. There was a fill-in umpire added to the crew today. This is per the TBS (Atlanta Braves) announcers.



Ramon Armendariz was the one who got the call.

Reliford's normal crew rotation is: Reliford, Vanover, Gibson, and Nauert, from home to third.

Nauert called balls and strikes in the opener on Thursday afternoon, with Reliford at first, Vanover at second, and Gibson at third.

Vanover called balls and strikes on Friday night, with Gibson at first, and Nauert at third.

Had Reliford been there, he would have called balls and strikes on Friday night, with Vanover at first, Gibson at second, and Nauert at third.


Gibson called balls and strikes yesterday afternoon, with Nauert at first, Armendariz at second, and Vanover at third.

Had Reliford been there, Vanover would have called balls and strikes yesterday afternoon, with Gibson at first, Nauert at second, and Reliford at third.

Nauert called balls and strikes again this afternoon, with Armendariz at first, Vanover at second, and Gibson at third.

Had Reliford been there, Gibson would have called balls and strikes this afternoon, with Nauert at first, Reliford at second, and Vanover at third.

My question from this situation is this: Were they not able to get Armendariz to San Francisco in time for Friday's night game, which was delayed nearly two hours by rain? Because, as a result of Reliford's injury, Nauert got two plate jobs in this series.

As far as the doubleheader went in Philadelphia earlier today, turns out that they used Laz Diaz in place of a regular AAA fill-in (James Hoye) to fulfill the five-man crew now regularly used in doubleheaders.

Tim Tschida would have worked Game 1 at first, obviously giving way to an AAA fill-in, who would work third in Game 2, while Tschida would have the plate. Diaz, having worked the plate Friday night, would obviously be scheduled for third in Game 1.

Instead, Diaz played the AAA fill-in. Hoye worked third in Game 1, filling in for Diaz, technically speaking, and second in Game 2, again, filling in for Diaz, technically speaking. But Tschida had Game 1 off, and Reed had Game 2 off.

briancurtin Sun Apr 09, 2006 08:08pm

where do you people get the time to follow and theorize about the rotations of crews and such?

mbyron Sun Apr 09, 2006 08:50pm

*sniff*

smell something here?

DG Sun Apr 09, 2006 08:58pm

Last weekend I worked a double header but with two different partners. I was assigned bases for the first game and then plate for the second. Now why wouldn't the fresh guy work the plate in the second game?
:)

BigUmp56 Sun Apr 09, 2006 09:15pm

You should be able to answer that question yourself, DG.

Last weekend was the first weekend of the month. Now, we all know that when you work a double header on the first weekend of the month the umpire on the bases from the previous game gets the dish on the second game with the new partner. Any other weekend of the month the fresh guys gets the dish, unless it's leap year, in which case the first guy who you worked the first game with has to stay and work a three man for the next game, then the the umpire who did the dish has to flip for it to see who works the dish.

Jeesh.... even I knew that.


Tim.

DG Sun Apr 09, 2006 10:17pm

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Originally Posted by BigUmp56
You should be able to answer that question yourself, DG.

Last weekend was the first weekend of the month. Now, we all know that when you work a double header on the first weekend of the month the umpire on the bases from the previous game gets the dish on the second game with the new partner. Any other weekend of the month the fresh guys gets the dish, unless it's leap year, in which case the first guy who you worked the first game with has to stay and work a three man for the next game, then the the umpire who did the dish has to flip for it to see who works the dish.

Jeesh.... even I knew that.


Tim.

Oh! What about full moons?

Come back soon Charlie, the riddle is getting to me...

future mlb blue Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:06am

Why did James Hoye start at third instead of first?

goyanksgonj Mon Apr 10, 2006 04:02pm

Doubleheader Sunday in Philadelphia
 
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Originally Posted by future mlb blue
Why did James Hoye start at third instead of first?

Sir, please see the explanation I provided earlier.

cowbyfan1 Tue Apr 11, 2006 05:02am

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Originally Posted by future mlb blue
Why did James Hoye start at third instead of first?

Maybe the same reason that an MiBL blue wrote in an email.. The replacement is a scrub that is not as good as the actual blue so stick him at 3rd where he could do the least amount of damage. Yes an MiBL ump wrote that concerning the fill in at for the striking Mibl blues.

In reality the crew prolly decided on what would work best for them and went from there. Other than that no reason I imagine.

LMan Tue Apr 11, 2006 09:09am

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Originally Posted by goyanksgonj
Sir, please see the explanation I provided earlier.

I heard from his assigned stalker that his rental car reservation was lost.


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