Does anybody own a pair of the new Gerry Davis pants? If so, how are they? I need a good pair of combo pants and I am contemplating getting them, they just look too dark. What are your all's opinions on pants?

Don't bother with Combo Pants. The legs are too narrow to comfortably/properly fit over most shin guards.

If you can't afford, or justify, two pair of pants, then just buy Plate pants and wear them on the bases. You can always buy Base pants later, and haven't wasted any money.

Some folks love 'em, some folks hate 'em. Personally, I have no trouble wearing shin guards under combo pants and they fit me well.

Being even wider than combo pants, I think that plate pants look sloppy when worn on the bases. But that's just me.

To each his own.

Sorry, but I have not seen the GD combos.

what about the new Davis pants though? Should I give them a try or what brand should I go with? Fechheimer? Cliff Keen? Honigs? The new Davis' just seem a little dark. I'll mainly use them for youth ball where I will be wearing smaller shins anyways so I am not worrying about them fitting over my west vest shins. Thanks alot for your responses.

I have a couple of pairs of pants, Fech plates and Davis combo's, in size 44, hemmed to 30 inches. I don't wear 44's anymore, and will probably sell them on Ebay.

By the way, the Fech's are still the best pants, and if I could get away with it, I'd still be wearing them. But, or should I say BUTT, thats not possible and remain in full compliance of applicable laws concerning public decency.

Bob P.

How are the +POS plate pants?

No customer service comments please.

Tks.

MidTnBlu

Email me.

i personally would not recommend combo pants. i have a pair as backups to my plate and base pants, but i hope that i never need to wear them. on the plate they look ridiculous, especially working GD and having them come up a few inches to show my shinguards off. on the bases i find they a bit too roomy in the legs.

also, i wouldnt recommend buying only plate pants and wearing them on the bases. i had to do this once because a scheduled single scrimmage turned into a double header (we arranged i was on the plate beforehand) and A) plate pants are typically longer, and were almost dragging under my shoes, and B) they were flapping in the wind like 2 flags on my legs.

if you cant afford separate base and plate pants, go for combo pants but do try and see if you can afford the separates.

I have +POS combo and base pants, and have been impressed with their durability and their capacity not to turn pink. I can recommend them without reservation (as long as we're not talking about customer service).

You just said it, "just seem a little dark". I use plate pants (Fech) when I have a single game behind the plate. I use combos (Honigs) for double headers and when I have a single base game.

Right now I've got GD, +POS, Honigs, Fechheimers in my closet. My favorites are the +POS pleated base pants, and the Honigs pleated combos. I'm tall and thin, so combos are perfect on me. Plenty of room in the legs for WV shin guards. For those that are no so thin (see, I didn't call anyone fat) regular plate pants are more "flattering". Combos don't seem to work on short inseams.

BUT they're all cut a little differently. My Fech's are wider, and GD's a little narrow. Me, I'm 6'1" and 175. Your mileage may vary.

Oh yeah, IMO plate pants look absolutely rediculous on the bases. I've been forced to wear them once, and being fairly tall, I could actually HEAR them flapping on my legs. I should have call myself out for visual obstruction.

I'm stocking up on equipment and uniforms for the upcoming season. Lucky for me, I have a fully-stocked umpire supply store (http://www.refandsport.com/) right here in town, just minutes from my house.

Last week I went there and picked up two pairs of Cliff Keene combo pants. I also received in the mail a pair of brand-new, with all the tags, +POS plate pants that I found on eBay for less than 1/2 price.

Comparing the two brands side-by-side, all of the labeling and tags on the pants look identical, with the lone exception of a single "+POS" tag and "CK" tag on the respective brands. The material and stitching also seem the same.

It looks to me that they come from the exact same manufacturer and are labeled for each individual brand, much the same way as if you buy a "Kenmore" washing machine at Sears, you are in fact getting a "Whirlpool" built machine with a "Kenmore" nameplate stuck on it.

[Edited by BretMan on Mar 8th, 2006 at 08:34 AM]

guys, I have a pair of brand new cliff keen pants combo, unhemmed with 38" waist. Also have 38*32 pants if anyone needs them for a good deal.

As for the pants, they do look darker than the other pants I have seen.

<i> Originally posted by midtnblu </i>

<b> How are the +POS plate pants </b>


I do not know if you umpire HS but if you do most HS Umpire associations have a dress code. For example in mine we CANNOT wear the +POS pants. We are required to wear the Fechheimer Grey. The +POS are a different color grey.

I know you asked how the pants are meaning are they comfortable but I just wanted to make a note that +POS Pants are not Fechheimer which from my experience most associations require. The +POS pants are primarily prevalent in LL umpires or other similar Youth Organizations.

Pete Booth

Doesn't MiLB wear +POS?

<i> Originally posted by Blue37 [/i]

<b> Doesn't MiLB wear +POS? </b>

Whatever the Major League Umpires wear is irrelevant.

Example; At one time the MiLB umpires wore Olive Green Pants. I do not know of any HS association that adopted that color.

My response as most responses deals mainly with the amateur game as that is what most if not all of us do.

I am a NY State Certified HS Umpire and if you want to work you have to wear the Uniform that is accepted and +POS is NOT accepted at least not in the NY State Association. Other States may have different rules and that was my point.

Before purchasing any umpire clothing/accessories, check with one's association to see what is acceptable or not.

Pete Booth

What does that have to do with anything? How is the brand of pants used in MiLB irrelevant?

Yes +POS provides the MiLB uniforms.

Where are you getting this info Pete? The Fechheimer lists their pants as "Heather Gray". +POS lists their pants as "Heather Gray". Also, how do you consider +POS pants to be "Little League" pants?

The +POS pants I have match exactly the color of the Cliff Keen pants I have, to the point that you cannot tell them apart without looking at the label sewn into the waistband. As I mentioned in my previous post, looking at these side-by-side to compare the material, stitching and labeling leads me to believe that they are all made in the same factory.

The Fechheimer pants I have are maybe just a hint darker than the +POS & CK. They are so close that you have to hold them up against each other to tell them apart and even then it's hard.

All are advertised as being "heather grey".

Minor league umpires use +POS pants. Says so right on the label. I'm not getting the LL reference.

You probably wonder why people bother shining their shoes. I mean, they get dusty 30 seconds after taking the field -- why bother?