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Carl Childress Thu Jan 05, 2006 01:09am

If Vince Young ran for governor in the next election, he might not win.

But if he ran next week....

Hook 'em, Horns.

WhatWuzThatBlue Thu Jan 05, 2006 01:34am

The Horns looked good. Pete Carroll needs some basics on game clock management and play calling. The replay system worked very well and we have a new number one in America. What do ya' think Carl, will we ever see replay in MLB games? NCAA CWS games?

CJN Thu Jan 05, 2006 08:03am

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Originally posted by WhatWuzThatBlue
The replay system worked very well
Except for one huge play, did you miss that knee being obviously down when Vince Young latteralled the ball to score a touchdown. Supposedly the replay officials had technical problems, but that is unacceptable in a game of that importance.

Vince Young was amazing. He had 467 total yards, that is just sick. That great performance may have pushed him over the edge for entering the NFL Draft.

BigUmp56 Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:55am

I like the class that Matt Lienart showed in a brief post game interview.


Leinart: "I still think we were the better team. They just made the plays."

Boo-Hoo..

Tim.


Rich Ives Thu Jan 05, 2006 11:37am

Quote:

Originally posted by BigUmp56
I like the class that Matt Lienart showed in a brief post game interview.


Leinart: "I still think we were the better team. They just made the plays."

Boo-Hoo..

Tim.


If you don't think like that you won't rise to the top.

BTW, Lienhart and Bush went to the Texas locker room to congratulate them. I think that's class.

largeone59 Thu Jan 05, 2006 12:04pm

Ohio State 34
Notre Dame 20

Quote:

Originally posted by BigUmp56

Boo-Hoo..


Bahahaha!

blueump Thu Jan 05, 2006 12:19pm

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Originally posted by CJN
Quote:

Originally posted by WhatWuzThatBlue
The replay system worked very well
Except for one huge play, did you miss that knee being obviously down when Vince Young latteralled the ball to score a touchdown. Supposedly the replay officials had technical problems, but that is unacceptable in a game of that importance.

Vince Young was amazing. He had 467 total yards, that is just sick. That great performance may have pushed him over the edge for entering the NFL Draft.

Did I miss something or weren't there two other very obvious interceptions that were never reviewed either...one for each team????

I honestly thought the officiating for this level of game was horrible. It seemed that way for most of the bowl games this year: Iowa's game, Georgia's game, and even Michigan's game!

mick Thu Jan 05, 2006 01:08pm

Congratulations to the Longhorns!
Fun game.

WhatWuzThatBlue Thu Jan 05, 2006 06:03pm

The funniest thing about all of the talk today is the radio guys saying that Vince Young will be the first draft pick. I've gone out on many limbs before, but he WILL NOT be the first draft pick next year. Reggie Bush will go to the Texans and break the Lone Star State's collective heart.

He had a great game, but Bush has proven himself as durable and magnificent for multiple years. If New Orleans snags Leinart, the moaning in Texas will be greater than when Ann Richards was in office.

On another thread a couple guys took swipes at the officiating crew. Those guys did a great job. Yes, some plays were missed but that crew was terrific - and I'm a USC fan.

I still didn't see Carl's reply about replay though. Do you think that we will see limited replay advance to the MLB game?

DG Thu Jan 05, 2006 09:40pm

1. A USC coach should have been assigned to watch game video and signal to Pete when it was time to take a timeout to give game officials more time to study replays. That play was a major snafu for the replay system, not to say that Texas might have scored on the next play, but if reviewed I can't believe they would have upheld the score on this play.

2. I have not heard that Young has declared for the draft but if he has, and Texans don't take him I would be shocked. A QB who can run and throw like he does would be more valuable as a franchise player than a RB. I aslo would not be surprised if the Texans trade the #1 pick for multiple first and second round picks and start building on that.

3. Pete should have punted with just over 2 minutes to play and the ball on the 44 instead of trying for a 1st on 4th and 2 yards to go. With the ball inside the 10 the difficulty in scoring a TD to win the game would have been greater. I know, that is arm chair coaching (I was actually sitting up in the bed by then), but that's what I thought at the time, and still do.

Texas Aggie Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:40pm

Young is from Houston and would probably sign more quickly than Bush would. I wouldn't bet against Houston taking Young, if he declares (which he will).

mick Thu Jan 05, 2006 11:10pm

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Originally posted by Texas Aggie
Young is from Houston and would probably sign more quickly than Bush would. I wouldn't bet against Houston taking Young, if he declares (which he will).
Good.
Then my Lions have a shot at David Carr.
Bit I think it's Bush to Houston and a new tackling assistant to Southern Cal.
mick

WhatWuzThatBlue Thu Jan 05, 2006 11:22pm

Houston has too much invested in Carr. They need a running back to help him. New Orleans needs a quarterback like Young, but they are at #2 and not likely to trade up. Matt Leinart goes next unless New Orleans thinks he has proven more by going 25-1 as a starter than Vince Young did.


I know this a bseball board so I'll stop.

BigUmp56 Thu Jan 05, 2006 11:32pm

What Houston needs is an offensive line that can pass protect. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Young in Houston next season. Carr isn't as good as some might think. The Texans would do well to use Carr to garner some oustanding offensive line prospects.

Tim.

WhatWuzThatBlue Sun Jan 15, 2006 07:13pm

I should call Dionne Warwick...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft0...ory?id=2293458

BigUmp56 Sun Jan 15, 2006 07:21pm

You were right, Windy. Good call. I still say they should have decided not to pick up the option on Carr's contract and dealt him for some offensive linemen. Only time will tell, but with Youngs porential upside being what it is, McNair may end up regretting his decision.

Tim.

SanDiegoSteve Mon Jan 16, 2006 08:23pm

Quote:

Originally posted by BigUmp56
I like the class that Matt Lienart showed in a brief post game interview.


Leinart: "I still think we were the better team. They just made the plays."

Boo-Hoo..

Tim.


"Sorry, I can't hear you. I've got a Heismann in each ear." - Will Ferrell

Rich Ives Mon Jan 16, 2006 09:26pm

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Originally posted by PWL
Quote:

Originally posted by Rich Ives
Quote:

Originally posted by BigUmp56
I like the class that Matt Lienart showed in a brief post game interview.


Leinart: "I still think we were the better team. They just made the plays."

Boo-Hoo..

Tim.


If you don't think like that you won't rise to the top.

BTW, Lienhart and Bush went to the Texas locker room to congratulate them. I think that's class.

I'll tell you what isn't class: Ballroom Dancing

I wonder what Leinart's final was, the Tango or the Waltz?

Should have learned the Texas Two-Step.



Gee, you need one elective course to graduate. Why would anyone choose anything with any degree of difficulty?

WhatWuzThatBlue Tue Jan 17, 2006 04:15am

I can imagine that some Ivy Leaguers would have an argument, but I happen to agree with you. If my son was one class away from graduating and could choose any subject, I'd be happy to let him take underwater basketweaving for lefties if it helped him finish up.

Matt Leinart's decision to forgo the millions he could have made in the pros for the thousands he makes at USC was noble. I find no fault in his course load. The guy was done except for something that required little brain power and helped him stay nimble. Didn't they make Ball Room Dancing and Olympic sport last games?

mbyron Tue Jan 17, 2006 07:27am

I think a lot of people feel the same way: why push yourself? It comes down to the point of education. Is it just a credential, or are you broadening and deepening a lifelong project?

The former view is prevalent in our society, probably because businesses started requiring a BA for many entry-level jobs. Given that mindset, it is reasonable to try to get through with as little friction against the brain as possible.

Kaliix Tue Jan 17, 2006 09:51am

It is obvious to me that you guys never actually took a ballroom dancing class in college.

I took ballroom dancing one year to give me my twelfth credit and keep me full time. That is a good reason to take it.

The best reason to take it is that, typically, the class has a 4 or 5 to 1 ratio of women versus men. I got to dance with all these fine looking college hotties and got credit to do it. While that part doesn't apply to Leinart, for everyone else it is a great deal.

Oh and the best part was that the instructor was also my college baseball coach. He is a certified Arthur Murray instructor.

That was a fun class. And I can dance circles around most people at any wedding I go to...

DG Tue Jan 17, 2006 08:18pm

I took typing my senior year in high school. Best class I had my senior year. I was one guy in a class of about 35. The class started in late August, in a time before air conditioning in high schools, and mini-skirts were still in style.


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