when wearing a pullover jacket, what do you wear under the jacket?

if i was in this situation, id have a fully exposed BB2000, unacceptable to work a game in.

do people wear a regular mesh umpire shirt under their jackets? ive never seen this before, but carls quote made me wonder how many people do it.

Well on the bases, I'll either wear Under Armor, then the jacket. On those real cold days, Under Armor, a turtle neck then the jacket. If it warms up, I'm screwed.

At the plate, I hate pullovers! I wear a plate coat (one if the few in my association that still has one). Depending on the temperature, Under Armor then the chest protector or (if it is real cold) Under Armor, the turtle neck, the chest protector then the plate coat.

The UA Cold Gear intrigues me but I just don't remember it getting cold enough during the early HS season consistently to wear it. I wear UA but the Loose Gear.

If it's cold and I'm behind the plate, I wear a UA shirt, CP, and a pullover. I definitely do not have a mesh shirt on over the CP. Too warm. CC can clarify but I bet he had a change of shirt in the dugout and went over between innings for the quick change.

Lawrence

I have never worn a regular mesh shirt under a jacket. The temperature would dictate what I am wearing under a jacket. If I am PU whatever I have on is under the CP.

I've worn the mesh shirt under a pullover, but like you, the temperature dictates. If it's cold enough for the shirt and the jacket, it won't be warming up enough to ditch the jacket in the 3rd. If it's boderline, I'll skip the mesh, but then it might warm up and I'm stuck. Odds are I'll always finish the way I start.

Mike

I bought a long sleeve mesh at the beginnning of the year this year. It was perfect for plate games on borderline days.

If God wanted us to wear long sleeve uniform shirts, He wouldn't have given us unlined pullovers.

1. To use behind the plate.

2. For Smitty's with short attention spans to amuse themselves on the bases.

No,I don't.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by GarthB
[B]I don't have an unlined pullover, mine is lined. But I have a long sleeve shirt...

you hold up the count on every pitch while working the bases? i figured that stayed with LL

No, that's just not true, Brian. Those of us working the bases on 90' diamond Little League games have been taught to jog to the mound and whisper the count into the pitchers ear after every pitch. We take the ball and inspect it for leaks, and pull out our plate brush from our back pocket or ball bag to dust off the pitchers plate.

Then we run to the plate area to have a conference with the PU to make sure we've got it right. Next, we call out the managers to be certain that they concur with what we have for a count.

If they don't concur then we go ask one of the board members or the league UIC to render a decision. If they do concur, we hustle back to our position, give Dugout a big wet Willy on the way by, pull out our plate brush to sweep off the nearest bag, and then allow play to resume.


The games are a little long at close to 10 hours each, but we get more hot dogs for working a 10 hour game then we would for working a 2 hour game!


Merry Christmas!!

Tim.

In other words, standard pro school mechanics! :D

I've never put a jacket over a shirt. If I wear a jacket on the bases, I finish the game in it. If I wear a shirt, I finish the game in it, unless it starts raining and I can send someone to the car for me.

On the plate, it's a plate coat (I have 2, one navy and one black and am about to replace the navy one for this spring) or a long sleeved shirt when cool. Apologies to Garth, but the long-sleeved shirt is the best new piece of equipment out there. Unlike Carl's association, where it's acceptable, I'd never wear my cold gear under a short sleeved shirt.

As for the Robocop reference, it's how it's supposed to look. The plate coat goes over the protector. I did have a coach try to tell me it was distracting last season, but he couldn't tell me to whom it would be distracting. The same coach downgraded me for not letting his kid tape over an earring (in a FED game), though, so consider the source.

--Rich

Want a quick two-week suspension? Wear
a long-sleeved jersey to call a high school
game here in Alabama. Do it on the bases while
carrying an indicator, well I guess that'd be
four weeks.

I'll give you this, the long sleeve is at least an improvement over the hillbilly look of a long undershirt under a shortsleeved uni shirt..not by much, but an improvement never the less.

That's because some dinosaurs think that you'd probably look better in a white shirt and bolo tie.

Have they removed the Fechheimer requirement there? Have they softened at all to wearing an umpire helmet?

What a backwards state....and what a bunch of control freaks running it.

Bolo ties? In all my life, I've seen
one person in this state wear a bolo tie,
and he was a rodeo cowboy. There is no longer
a Fechheimer requirement, but we can forget
wearing the HS helmet.
We're not as backward as many think,Rich. If
you ever have the time/urge, I'd love for you
to come experience some "Alabama hospitality",
and work some games with us. I'd enjoy it, and
I think you would also.

Chuck

Well a long sleeve shirt is also against the rules for officials here in PA. PIAA only allows jackets over your uniform shirts and the plate and base umpires are supposed to match.I'm not saying THAT happens evry time but thats the rule.

Ohio says that too...that the plate & base umpires must match even though we know that goes against all unwritten uniform rules....

Chuck,

The bolo tie line was a joke.

I'm sure that the individual umpires are outstanding people to work with -- I've worked with one outstanding Alabaman (in lower Alabama, actually :) ). But who do these policies benefit? Look at the "umpire helmet" nonsense -- who does it benefit? I think it's silly to use an indicator on the bases, but why should something like THAT be up to the state?

A few umpires or administrators on a power trip make the state look silly.

--Rich

[Edited by Rich Fronheiser on Dec 26th, 2005 at 11:49 AM]

And I would never disagree with your views
on our state leadership. Change comes very
slowly here, and some folks have to be dragged
kicking and screaming to change anything. "We've
always done it that way" seems to be their mantra......

Chuck

Just me...............
 

I do not wear a shirt over the chest protector when I'm wearing the pullover jacket. And, how I start the game is how I finish the game.


Doug

First, I've never used a jacket behind the dish, aside from my plate coat. On the bases I'll have a normal mesh shirt on, just in case the weather changes. I've got no problem putting on, or taking off jackets as needed. Those stoic folks who wish to suffer are welcome to it.

As for long sleeved shirts, if you've never tried on a +POS lined l/s shirt you're missing the best piece of gear out there. Better than a Platium and GD patent leather combined. Any bumpkin associations that won't allow them probably also require beanies.

Hey Brian, the norm with us is that the jacket goes over a turtleneck or UA, not another pullover shirt. Overlayer yourself because it's only going to get colder as the sun starts to set, esp prior to the time change. I don't ever recall a partner delayering in the middle of a game, but I can't count how many times I or my partner have regretted not putting on the extra layer because it was 50 degrees at 4:00 and 38 at 5:30.

And Brian...dump the POS protector! That was a failed experiment by Buck and company. The best equipment decision I ever made was dumping that after one season for a West Vest Gold.

yeah ive always gone with the jacket over a turtleneck or something like that. i just found it odd that other people wore a pullover shirt under it. i cant really see anyone going over between innings and pulling off their jacket, hanging it up on the fence, and then finishing the rest of a game. it would look a bit funny to me.

im definitely looking into a WV platinum soon, i need to dump that +POS one. ive tried the gold a few times and liked it a lot. the 20% off winter deal +POS runs got me hooked a bunch of years back and i bought into their trap haha.

edited: i said gold when i meant platinum

[Edited by briancurtin on Jan 1st, 2006 at 11:48 PM]

Here in Southern Calif (North LA County) it's not unusual in early spring or late fall for it to be 70 at game time & drop to 50 or less w/wind by the 5th (Or stay around 68).

Many of the guys will just hang a jacket on the fence & put it on if needed. Too much of a pain to take a shirt off at that point. (We can wear long sleeves at the plate but not on bases).

Start w/jacket - appropriate weight turtleneck underneath.

I've become some what of an Under Armour expert over the last year or so, and I swear by the stuff. I just haven't worn the cold gear, so I don't know how hot it can be if its borderline, and I certainly understand getting overheated. I'd rather be too cold than too hot (stuffy hot) any day.

UA makes heatgear (obviously for hot weather), coldgear, and All Season gear. The AS long sleeve shirt has a mock t-neck on it, and may be a good compromise for those that want to wear a jacket but worry about getting too warm. The other idea, one I used this season for football, was to get a Turfgear shirt and wear that instead. I think that's a little lighter than the AS or Cold gear, but it doesn't have a mock. It would be a good thing to wear under a long sleeved umpire shirt if the night is a tweener, weather wise. The night I wore it on, I had it under a long sleeved striped shirt (probably heavier than most blue umpire shirts) in around 40 degrees with a north wind pushing 15 mph. It was chilly, but I didn't get too cold or too warm.

So, for jacket wearers, get a cold gear shirt and an AS shirt. Determine how cool it has to be to wear either. Then, get a long sleeved umpire shirt, with which you can wear an AS shirt (with a mock), a turf gear long sleeved (without one), or a heat gear short sleeved/sleeveless as the case may be.

I agree, and that's one reason I suggested to go ahead and get the various flavors of UA so you are prepared.

I still haven't decided whether I'm going to work baseball this year, I will be prepared if I do. I probably played in more cold baseball games than football games. As far as that goes, the cold and even the rain doesn't bother me much. Its the tornados that start getting my attention.

I wasn't at the stadium when this happened, but I lived within a mile and a half from Olsen Field in College Station when a tornado touched down near there around 1990 and they had to move everyone in the stadium under it. Thank God it was only on the ground a short time, and didn't hit the stadium.

Incidentally, does Under Armour make any "Tornado-Gear"?

Maybe none of you do early morning games, but here in San Diego if I'm doing a 9am game it might start out at 45 degrees and end at 80. On the bases I wear a jacket with regular umpire shirt under it. What's the big deal in take off the jacket between innings?

it looks unprofessional to some

Depending on the temperature, and what position I will be on the field, I use a SS shirt, a LS shirt, or a Jacket, with various undershirts. I have never used a regular mesh shirt under a jacket, and I have never taken a jacket off between innings. I have finished a few games too hot or too cool because the weather changed more than I thought it would but in these cases I just tough it out.
I also wear gloves when it is really cold and I have also used ear muffs (the kind that wrap around).

What's more "unprofessional", taking off a jacket, or sweating like a pig with a jacket on when it's 80 degrees? I'll suffer the indignation of removing the jacket.

I work games right on the coast line. The temperature changes very quickly, in both directions. It makes no sense to suffer. If you're that worried about how others will think about how it looks(really, how cares? coaches?) you might be a tad paraniod. No one, other an other umpire nerds, care if you're taking off a jacket between innings.

Honest.

I can not envision a situation where I start with a jacket and the temperature rises to 80 by the end of the game. If it happened I could not remove my jacket because my SS shirt is in my car and I would be working with just a tee shirt on, so I would tough it out.

I guess you'll have to trust me that morning games in my neck of the woods have that sort of temperature swing. A forty degree swing during a game is not unheard of around my parts.

If it's taboo, for some of you, to remove a jacket during a game, is it also verbodden to don one? Just curious. I've never heard of such protocol.

40 degree swings are unheard of in my area. If I lived where you do I would take off, put on, or whatever else is necessary to remain comfortable.

DG,

Along the Calif. coast line or the high desert it's very common at certain times of the year to have 30 to 40 degree temp swings. Feb & March can be that way but June is normally the worst.

I have had plenty of days in Feb where a short sleeve shirt was fine for the afternoon game & had ice on the car after the night game.

March games
 

Im sure we all have had cold games....I showed up at a HS game in March at a ballfield perched on a hill in W. PA. It couldnt have been any higher than 40 degrees with snow flurries and the temp dropping as the afternoon wore on...all with a stiff wind....

I had on every piece of uniform clothing I owned.....
Navy Underarmor shirt
2 Navy T-shirts
Navy Long sleeve Jersey
Navy PIAA Jacket

My long black plate socks and short socks and gloves.....this was the game that made me add long underwear to my game bag!! Never been so cold in my life....If I would have had more gear with me, I would have had it all on.......

Stan

[Edited by piaa_ump on Jan 4th, 2006 at 10:39 AM]

Re: March games
 

There is no shame on putting on everything you have. I worked a college game in northern Illinois 2 seasons ago where the field was on top of a hill, completely unprotected. I put on everything I could under my jacket and as I was walking for the field changed my mind and ran back to the car for my plate coat.

I used to wear my plate coat on the bases a few times each spring. Heavy gloves, too, whatever I could grab. Now, with UA Cold Gear, I'm usually quite warm with the CG and the jacket alone, along with gloves and once in a great while an UnderArmour hood under my hat.

learned my lesson
 

This was the game I decided that Tee was right.....up until that day I had always just put in my vehicle the gear and uniform I thought I might need for that day....

Now I carry everything I own with me.....When the season starts, I load up the car with my umpire gear. Uniforms,gear, the whole works.....if I can possibly need it I got it in the car....

Now if My car ever gets stolen,.....then man, Im screwed......

Stan

Re: learned my lesson
 

didnt this happen to lance cokalinski once? i think he missed out on like 83 games in the three weeks he didnt have equipment

By the Rulebook
 

Would you let a fielder play without his socks?

Not wearing a shirt equates to not wearing your uniform.

Wear your uniform and shine your shoes.


If you need a jacket, wear a jacket.

Show me a rule that say's a player has to wear socks.

Tim.

You asked
 

MLB 1.11 (3) No player whose uniform does not conform to that of his teammates shall be permitted to participate in a game.

Also, under FED rules, a player cannot wear a jacket over his shirt while on defense.

Lose the ball bag too
 

I wouldn't want smitty to get the idea that he doesn't have to wear a belt, that he's fine in one of those fancy navy Under Armor t-shirts, or that he can wear his cleats beind the plate either.

Your stupid rants will get this thread killed too.

It's one thing to go for a larf or two. You just go to the well too many times. Kinda like a point guard knocking down two three pointers in a row, and then going 0-6.

Relax, There Just Threads
 

I wasn't going after a LIFT in this thread. It SEAMS to me we were discussing being properly dressed in UMPIRE clothing on a very cold day.

I love to wear a new hat with the 2 inch brim around town just for fun and because NO one else wears one. Its like my own personalized fashion statement. It gets a lot of attention with my favorite matching cold weather jacket.

Then I add the patent leather belt and plate shoes, a sharp crease in the heather gray pants, and just the right amout of starch in the NAVY shirt. Oh, I also wear black leather gloves and a scarf if its really WINDY out there.

----------------
By the way, its not like I go out of my way to jump on each and every thread just to impress the big dogs with an utter.

Re: By the Rulebook
 

how so?

Re: You asked
 

I'm still waiting for you to cite a rule in any rules code stating it is illegal for a player to not wear socks.


What do you do when they pull their pants down over the back of their cleats? Do you ask them to pull them up so you can check?

What about players wearing high top cleats with a low cut sock?

OOO.

Tim.

Obviously you didn't get an e-mail from Bob Jenkins or you didn't understand what he was saying in it.

Bob you need to level the playing field if you're going to allow this child to make these comments. I don't think it's right for you to send me e-mails asking me to not respond to this jerk if you're going to allow these type of post's from him. You assured me yesterday that you had sent him an e-mail asking him to stop this BS. Please let me know how many of these nonsensical post's from this child I have to endure before I am allowed to defend myself or how how many of his post's need to be deleted before further action is warranted.

Tim.

Tim.

[Edited by bob jenkins on Jan 16th, 2006 at 09:21 AM]

Unprofessional OOO
 

Dear Monday Morning QB,

Did you enjoy football yesterday? Happy MLK day! Please go out and celibrate your government holiday. Take the day OFF.

Not wearing socks is like a kid wearing his baseball cap backwards. He can do it. But an UMPIRE should request that he turn it around and wear it like a baseball cap.

MLB 1.11 (a) (1) All players on a team shall wear uniforms identical in color, trim and style, ...

I would prove that this apllies to (MLB) umpires as well, but then all my hard work would VANISH like a RISING fastball. So I will not bother.

As much as I would have liked to enjoyed football yesterday, both the Colts and the Bears made that pretty much impossible.

I understand you saying a player should wear socks. My point is you can't tell him he has to wear socks unless you're an OOO. There's been an increasing trend for baseball players to wear full length pants where the bottom of the pant leg is pulled over the back of the shoe. You can't see if a player is wearing socks or not if they wear their pants in this fasion. I'm also accustomed to seeing players wearing high top cleats with an ankle cut sock. Are these players in violation of 1.11?

Are you checking all the players for socks? If you did find a player without socks, what are you going to do, tell him he can't play?

OOO


I guess the next time you see an exploding fastball you'll be looking for shrapnel.


Tim.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by PWL

Quote:

My Uncle Bob actually sent me an e-mail encouraging me to keep it up. Said that he thought this might be the best way to get rid of you after that little spam job you pulled Saturday. Fix your skirt Queenie, your slip is showing. BTW-If you have some nits to pick check this out. http://www.lice-rx.com

I didn't spam this board.


(1)


Tim.

I did send him an email -- and you need to give me time to read and respond to his posts of this nature. As hard as it might be to believe, I don't monitor this board 24x7.

I never doubted that you did send him one, Bob. My point was he either didn't read it or didn't understand what you were saying.

Thank you.

Tim.

Re: By the Rulebook
 

You must be joking. Nobody I know would waste a clean shirt in order to wear it under a jacket.

Okay.

I don't mean this in a smart alec or sarcastic way, but why don't the both of you stop being so juvenile.

Seriously...

Following along in Kaliix shoes . . .
 

I wonder if it is even important to post anything on this forum. No matter how good the topic is eventually it becomes a WOBW with silly, petty, narcissistic ego pumping by a small few.

But I'll try:

I guess I am misunderstanding a few things in the thread.

I wear a plate coat. I would never wear a shirt over the Carlucci chest protector. I wear McDavid's under the protector.

I was also brought up that a plate coat is to be worn on any game that will end under the lights. Texas and Florida friends have asked me to come and work there on nights when the temperature and humidty would make that deathly.

When working the bases I dress for the day and that does not change. I am confused a little in this thread as it appears that some think you need to wear an "umpire shirt" under your pullover while working the pads.

I have never heard that in my life. Even Alabama would allow just a UA/McDavid's under the pullover --

UNLESS,

for some reason you wanted to take off the pullover.

I think all areas of the world have "huge temperature swings" . . . it is not just a coastal issue, a Texas issue or a Kansas issue -- cold fronts move through, cloudy days become perfect weather.

I won't judge others:

I wear EITHER a plate coat (less outer shirt) or a short sleeved shirt (over the CP) when on the stick.

I wear either a pullover (with as much dadburn under garment as necessary) or go with a short sleeved shirt when working the pads.

No matter what . . . I wear what I started with until I get back to the car.

Tee

~Aside~

I worked three days of games at the University of Nebraska one spring. It was 90*.

It was 24* on Friday, 32* on Saturday and 34* on Sunday. And the wind blew the entire time.

I wore everything I had with me.

T

I too am somewhat puzzled at times by the behavior of some that participate in this forum.

As to this topic.

If I wear a "wind breaker" jacket on the plate, I never wear anything but an Under Armour or McDavid intera-wear shirt underneath. I always wear a pair of McDavid tights with a cup pocket, no matter the weather. I sometimes augment those with old fashioned long john pants in the extreme California cold (under 40, grin).

If I'm working the bases, and its cold, I may put everything but the kitchen sink under my "wind breaker" jacket, but that never includes an umpire shirt.

I keep whatever I have on at the beginning of the game on until the end of the game.

If that bothers some of you here, so what.

Bob

[Edited by RPatrino on Jan 16th, 2006 at 02:01 PM]

the last two posts were what i was looking to see out of this thread. two people telling what they wear, and why. if people like to wear the mesh shirt under a jacket, cool, go for it. if people want to take it off, thumbs up, go for it. if people dont wear mesh and dont take off the jacket, two thumbs up, go for that too.

i thought about deleting this once it turned into "queen bee" arguments and other grab assing

I did send him an email -- and you need to give me time to read and respond to his posts of this nature. As hard as it might be to believe, I don't monitor this board 24x7.

[/B][/QUOTE]Tsk, tsk, tsk.....

Obviously you need to go to Global Moderator School, Bob. It's a 16 week course and the cost is a mere $14,500 and your first born male child. The course is offered on the UmpiresUnlimited site to a select few aspiring Global Moderators only each year. Spots are limited, so act now. You may have to pass a physical though(they'll be gentle). Unfortunately, Mick flunked his physical because he giggled too much during it. He's ticklish, you know. They also guarantee that the part of the course where they do the surgery to remove your sense of humor is completely painless. However, be warned that you can only attend Global Moderator School if you're sponsored or approved by an existing Global Moderator. There also is a probationary period involved after graduation where you're not allowed to wear your authorized official Global Moderator uniform in front of your computer. It is OK to wear it out in public though. You are allowed to use your Global Moderator secret decoder ring during your probationary period though. Go for it. Reach for the stars! Maybe one day you'll be able to join Timmy and Stevie on the Global Moderator Dream Team.

Hey, maybe we can all start a fund and send Bob to a Global Moderator camp this summer. What do you think, everybody?

[Edited by Jurassic Referee on Jan 16th, 2006 at 04:22 PM]

I will donate the money I was going to spend on WJR's online balk clinic. I really wanted to attend this onlie clinic, but I guess it will have to wait unitll next season.

That way, everyone who BU always challenges to call him can finally get a chance to do so witout having to pay those long distance fees (The telethon will have an 800 number I assume). What a great idea.

A helmet leads to, what? A lifetime ban? Or do they just take you out and shoot you?

This one made me laugh...how long ago was this?


"~Aside~

I worked three days of games at the University of Nebraska one spring. It was 90*.

It was 24* on Friday, 32* on Saturday and 34* on Sunday. And the wind blew the entire time.

I wore everything I had with me."



Even up here, in the blustery Midwest, our schools have temperature guidelines. I haven't started a game when it was below freezing in years. Even the most hardup coach doesn't want a stud pitcher killing his arm or a fielder pulling up with a hamstring injury.

"Blue, where was that last pitch."

"I don't know. My eyes are frozen."



You weren't using Celsius, were you Tee?

;)

Gees,
 

WWTB:

I can't remember exactly, but Sanders was still running the program and he had me out every spring for about 10 years. I met him when I worked the first college game that he had ever coached.

Guessing it was the late 80's to early 90's. But that is a pure guess.

T

i had a few games cancelled because of the temperature being way too cold, but we once started a game in the snow against st. charles (back when it was one school) and i believe we had light snow throughout most of the game. that was a fun one.

[that was posted referring to me as a player]

On the bases??????

YOU should know
 

I am a big man and I sweat in cold weather too. If I have a doubleheader I remove everything above the belt and put on a 2nd set of gear for the plate or bases. If my outer t-shirt is moist, everything is headed towards the washing machine. Below the belt is my business.

Temps 50-60, I wear a short sleeve cotton shirt. A WV gold and a long sleeve cotton shirt. Then I put on my shirt uniform. The WV is all I need to keep warm and the long sleeves keep my arms warm on a windy day. I might add a windbreaker.

Temps 60-70, I lose the long sleeves and enjoy the plate or add the sleeves to work the bases.

Temps below 50, I WEAR the windbreaker.

Temps below 40, I DO suggest to the coaches that if we need to finish another day, I will be available for FREE. If not, I begin looking for gloves and a scarf.
---------------

Now that you read this drivel, I would like to ask, how do you neutralize your CP after a warm one, and do you have more than one plate coat/jacket to cover the rest of the week?

Re: Following along in Kaliix shoes . . .
 

Reminds me Tee, years ago, I had to call time at an Eastern Washington University game game when the snow began falling so hard that I couldn't see the pitcher release the ball. And this was in April.

We had a 30 minute delay while the storm passed.

Gong!

Snow? You must mean JT. (RIP Jack). I'm from California, and its a rare day when we have to take the flip flops off in favor of snow shoes. Very Rare, in fact.

Bob

Tee,
Do you still start games when it is below freezing?
I'm just asking and don't know what the "Gees" was about. I thought that most conferences adopted environment rules a few years ago.

Union dude
 

I suppose big guys could go nekid beneath a plate coat and CP as long as its covered in the by-laws. Looks like your union has already set up the rules to allow it. No arguement there.

We wear shoes, socks and a shirt around here!

Re: Union dude
 

In years past, MLB umpires wore their Elbeco shirts under the Formal Base Coat. In the '70's, they flipped the collars out over the lapels of the coat for that "disco look". They never wore a shirt under the coat at the plate.

Now I wear a plate coat and other than the WV Platnimum, it's either UnderArmour or (if it's cold) UnderArmour and a turtleneck (usually red). I cannot see the sense in wearing a CP, a navy or black pullover shirt and then a plate coat.

I have never worn a uniform shirt under my chest protector. On a warm day I wear what color tee shirt my partner is wearing. On a cool day or evening game I wear a Honigs pullover with a tee shirt or UA.

I don't understand why anyone would want to use up a clean uniform shirt under a chest protector. It just doesn't make much sense to me.

Tim.

OK,
 

Since it is now "impossible" to place any words in a post without someone questioning them this is my last post in this thread:

Gees, signifies my own concern that someone asked me to remember something from many years ago. It had not a freakin' thing to do with a negative reaction to anyone. Period.

WWTB, in Oregon we play baseball.

At the college level we play in the rain, we play in the snow, we play in the cold.

We have only two D-1 schools. They both play at all costs or they wouldn't have games. While it is true that both those schools go south in early season to make sure they play once the season starts most games are played.

If someone like Southern Cal comes to town Oregon State does everything possible to get games in . . . anything goes.

At our D-3 and NAIA schools weather is simply accepted.

We also have an unwritten rule: "if you start a game in the rain you PLAY the game in the rain -- starting in the rain means you finish the game no matter what."

And for the doubters we have pretty good college baseball in Oregon. OSU was at the CWS last year (2 and home) and two years ago we had the NAIA National Champion at George Fox College.

In closing, We have found over the last 30 years that college coaches play games under all types of conditions. Many coaches agree to "set aside" guidlines that are established.

If you get bored, there is an article on another website that I wrote about working a college double header with huge puddles of water all over the infield. This is the game with the now famous "inside the infield home run" to end the second game.

Tee

[Edited by Tim C on Jan 17th, 2006 at 08:19 AM]

Rain out! I wish!!

.......by Tee

http://www.umpire.org/writers/so-6.html

"Blue, where was that last pitch."

"I don't know. My eyes are frozen."


That's funny! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!