* Asked and answered, your honor. I don’t measure any equipment unless a problem is brought to my attention. Despite your assertions, the book does not tell us to measure mitts, bases, balls or uniform patches during the pregame.


Then what does the book mean when it says, before the start of the game, the umpire in chief shall inspect the equipment of the players?

This would include *all* player equipment. No one does it, but it is certainly in the book/books.

Tim.

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You actually discuss this in your pregame? I hope you word it more diplomatically than that.

You do know that the Fed did away with the 10-run rule, right? I miss it a lot! I don't think anyone is suggesting "nose to toes" strikezones, but if a batter on the 21 run side is standing there on 3-2 looking for a walk, he's gonna be sitting down on anything close.

You were just joking with this one right? Good one, you got me! Coach pitch or tee ball, hahahahahahaha!!!!!:D

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The mercy rule can be adopted by the state association.

Well,
 

The State "can" adopt the rule. But as Portland (OR)has continued to show, "leagues" have the ultimate choice.

The OSAA allows Mercy Rule games . . . none of our largest schools allow it BUT ALL OTHER sized schools have it.

T

Re: Well,
 

Thye mercy rule is required in Texas, even in championship play-offs.

"There's no wiggle-room here. You say it's not a problem. I agree. I treat it the same way. But I don't go around bragging that I'm a perfect rulebook umpire either. BTW: I check for the cups as the books requires: "Coach, are your players equipped legally?" (I don't ignore that rule.) But there's no such question required for discovering who the captain is. You don't do it; I don't do it. That one rule we both ignore."

I have never said I was a perfect rule book umpire, but you love to put words in other's mouths. On the contrary, I've admitted that I've never worked a perfect game and neither have any of my crews. My ego is in check, yours could use some work.

The book says that the coach must designate a captain, where? Also, where does it say that he must divulge that information to me? Remember, you live on the Fed field, but many of us don't.

If you want to worry about the size of the baseball and mitt, I suspect that you have deeper seated issues. Those were your examples, yet when I pointed out that a cup is mandatory equipment and you don't check to see that it is there! If you want to live in the ludicrous world, welcome to cup check time. If you rely on a coach to tell you, then why not rely on a coach to tell you that the mitts, baseballs and bats are regulation too. BTW, I used the "properly equipped" quote first, thanks for ignoring it to make your point. You never cease to amaze. [not a compliment]

Apparently you did not know somethings about Fed ball...Fed rules allow the baseball to vary by as much as a quarter inch. Also, I'm sure you remove any non-leather mitt from play, since that is what is stated. With the proliferation of sythetic mitt materials, you'll be very busy. What'll we do without a 2007 BRD? Maybe BU56 can pen it. [not a compliment to either of you]

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BigUmp56,
It does not say 'all'! You would make an awful translator.

You are also the only umpire who thinks we should examine the dugout equipment bags to see that they are hanging properly...'nuff said. That is the definition and accompanying photo of an Overly Officious Official! Do you check the size of the commemorative patch, as well?

Ok Blowhard, What does it mean then? I already said I don't check equipment. No one does that I've worked with either unless it's a problem that's brought to their attention. If they did, however, they would be within thier rights to do so.

Your the idiot who said there is no rule to support measuring mitts before the game. I pointed out that you were wrong and the rule does provide for an umpire to check before hand, and you change the subject because you simply cannot ever admitt you're wrong.

And it is your job to make sure the field is clear of playing equipment before you put the ball into play. This includes the equipment bag's now doesn't it.

I never said I examine bags. I said they need to be secured away from the playing field. I could care less if they stow their gear in pillow cases. As long as their securely in the dugout, I'm a happy camper.

Tim.

In Texas the UIL insists that we check bats for -3 and cracks and helmets for NOCSAE seal and cracks. Last year, an umpire failed to do that because he was late. During the game a non-wood bat broke and the barrel end went sailing. Nobody was injured. It's <i>possible</i> an inspection could have detected the bat. I'd say he was lucky, all round.

It's <i>never</i> overly officious to enforce any rule connected with safety. It's simply GFYW.

You do not check all of the equipment and field conditions...period, end of story. If you do, good luck with the spikes, uniform lengths, batters box width, diameter of the on-deck circle, athletic cup use, back stop distance, base dimensions...


Once again, I didn't say not to check the pertinent equipment. When it is mandated, I give a cursory inspection to bats and helmets. Checking equipment bags earned you the mocking of an entire board. Why pursue that ridicule again?

You and Carl are peas in a pod. The bad thing is that one of you has the experience to know better. He just continues to fumble when the facts make him change course. [For the record, I answered all of his questions and am still awaiting a pertinent rebuttal.] The other is like Don Quixote. Look it up, you'll find a striking similarity to the man in the mirror.






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"Learning and innovation go hand in hand. The arrogance of success is to think that what you did yesterday will be sufficient for tomorrow." ~ William Pollard

Again, Blowhard you need to take some lessons in remedial reading. I never said I check the equipment bags. I said I make sure they are secured off of the playing field. Why is that so hard for you to understand?


More than likely, the only one ridiculing me on the outhouse forum was you using multiple aliases.

It'll be nice to see how you fair over there this coming season now that IP addresses are being added to each post again.

Also, for the record, I was not the one to post that short article on the outhouse forum. It was copied from either my board or eteamz and pasted there.


Isn't it time for you to sell one of your $100,000 properties again and do some jet setting?

Or, maybe it's time to re-write your memoirs and include how Narcissism is ruining your life. Does the pool ever show a ripple now and then?

Give me a break you pretentious jerk!

Tim.

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WWTB,

You're a better man than I, Gunga Din.

For someone who isn't familiar with the intricacies of McGriffs, you certainly write about them enough.

I have not been on that site in some time. I used the name WindyCityBlue over there and never have a problem stating my opinions. Aliases aren't required for those who can write intelligently. The beat down you took from those others was frighteningly funny though. For what it's worth, GhostSurf beats any IP identifier. So, you'll probably still take a pummeling over there and never know who it was. On this site, we are only too happy to oblige. Did you have a baseball related question?

As for the subject at hand, I was not the one who insists that an umpire is supposed to check ALL player and field equipment - YOU WERE! If you haven't noticed, no one is coming to your aid here. Using words you should be familiar with; you made a mistake - now admit it and get on with your life. Any umpire worth his salt is laughing at how preposterous your statement was. Put in a few more years and then get back to me.

BTW, I don't have any $100,000 properties. The land to build a garage can cost that much around here. I see that real estate escapes your grasp, as well. If you would like to get back to baseball, it'll be easier to explain. I've got to go check the coaches box dimensions again...those damn field supervisors keep making our job so tough!

do you guys get paid by the keystoke at work or something?

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I hope enough umpires complained about the lack of a mercy rule in HS games in 2005. Hopefully they will reinstate it in California for 2006. Here, the CIF is a dictatorship, and what goes for one high school, goes for them all.

All the umpires want it, and so do many of the coaches I've talked to. Apparently there were quite a few coaches who cried that they weren't getting enough baseball when games were called early.

All I know is that I had way too many blowouts last year. I had coaches beg me to call the game after 4-1/2 or 5 innings when it was out of hand. I obliged them, as long as it was mutual between the teams.