Ah, Peter, Peter, Peter. I can read a calendar. It's Friday. Nice, try though.

One can see even you almost gagged while trying to keep a straight face.

No, sorry. I know Gary. It wasn't a silly extortion attempt that caused him to change his site, yet again.

BigUmp would get up at 4:00 in the morning, complain it was dark, then take credit for the sun coming up.

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Garth,

Now your simply being obtuse. Your inability to look at he facts presented and examine them objectively just shows your arrogance.

Think about what I've told you on a factual basis.

1) Fact: On the morning of November 16th, Gary asked me to stop posting the link. If you dispute this fact, you can go to the archives on my board and look at his post.

2) Fact: On the evening of Nov. 16th., I sent Gary my reply telling him I would stop posting the link if he would change things.

3) Fact: On Nov. 21st, Gary cleaned out the board completely. This was done after 11 months of e-mails from me and several umpires from the NFUA had gotten nowhere.

Summation:

Anyone with a reasonable amount of intelligence can only conclude that there is as direct corelation between my reply to Gary, and his decision to change his board.

I consider you to be not just a reasonably intelligent man, but an extremely intelligent man, Garth. You know the truth, but will not be reasoned with and convinced that you were wrong.

Also, if you know Gary personally and did not try to convince him that the site was a disgrace that needed some serious changes implemented, you should be ashamed of yourself as well.

Tim.

Hmmm,
 

Well I am not claiming credit. HOWEVER Tim, prior to your discussions with Mr. McGriff I intoned on the paid side of this site (see Strikes & Outs -- Umpires and the Internet) that the McGriff site should be closed down.

As John Wooden said in his book "Coach": "It is amazing how much we can accomplish when no one tries to claim the credit."

Tee

It is Friday, and Peter just posted that to create a stir. I seriously dobut that Peter would actually agree with you.

I still can't believe that anyone would actually say that to the owner of a (I assume) for profit website. Gary has ads on that site. If people stop reading his forum and go to yours, he will lose money. I am suprised Gary still lets you post there.

11 months of emails? You need to get a life.

Do you have any evidence that Gary did what he did becuase of you? So far I have seen none. All you have done is assumed you were part of it. Unless Gary comes out and confirms your statements, I will never believe you.

I think you just personally insulted pretty much every member of this forum. Everyone knows who Gary McGriff is, and I would bet that few to none of them sent him any emails.

Also, if you know Gary personally and did not try to convince him that the site was a disgrace that needed some serious changes implemented, you should be ashamed of yourself as well.

Tim. [/QUOTE]

Who the Phuque do you think you are? Take your evangelizing crusade someplace else. You do not know me. You do not know my values. You have no business making any such assumptions about me. I'll tell you what I tell coaches: Say anything you want about my eyesight, but don't you ever attack my integrity.

Do you know the man personally or not, Garth? If you don't then when you said you *knew* him you were using a poor choice of words. You should have said that you know *of* him if that's what you meant.

I'll say it again. If you know him personally and did nothing to try to sway him to change the board, then you would be guilty by association for the crap that takes place there. If you don't know him personally, but rather know him by reputation only, then you should not have been offended.



Tim.

PS,

Nice tag line, Luke. If you're going to go out of your way to insult someone with a tag line, the least you could do is learn how to spell.

[Edited by BigUmp56 on Dec 3rd, 2005 at 12:07 AM]

No. You are someone who thinks his judgment is the only judgment. You are someone who believes he should impose his values on everyone else. You are someone who is intolerant of any view of the world that is not yours. You are someone who has decided that he knows what's good for everyone. You are someone who can't stand to see anything exist that you do not agree with.

You are someone who has crossed the line.

Attacking the integrity of someone you don't know is not an act of bravery or a badge of courage. It is a narrow-minded and bigoted and stupid act. It is also a defammatory act and one that should have consequences.

I do not presume that the world should live by my values. When McGriff's went in a direction with which I did not agree, I simply quit posting there.

You will find that this is not McGriffs or Eteamz. You will not bully me into accepting your inappropriate behavior.

Did he really write 'obtuse'? Methinks he was watching Shawshank Redemption lately. I've never seen that in any of his posts before.

Damn Garth,
 

Garth wrote:

" . . . You are someone who thinks his judgment is the only judgment. You are someone who believes he should impose his values on everyone else. You are someone who is intolerant of any view of the world that is not yours. You are someone who has decided that he knows what's good for everyone. You are someone who can't stand to see anything exist that you do not agree with.

"You are someone who has crossed the line.

"Attacking the integrity of someone you don't know is not an act of bravery or a badge of courage. It is a narrow-minded and bigoted and stupid act. It is also a defammatory act and one that should have consequences.

"I do not presume that the world should live by my values. When McGriff's went in a direction with which I did not agree, I simply quit posting there.

"You will find that this is not McGriffs or Eteamz. You will not bully me into accepting your inappropriate behavior."

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He11 GB, I thought you were describing me perfectly!

Tee