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umper Sat Sep 10, 2005 09:38pm

Can anyone remember their first year umpiring for giving advice? I did my 2nd and 3rd games today with the little guys (10 and 11yrs.)
I had three close plays on the bases and all three calls went against one particular team. I really start second guessing my call when the coaches are rambling on about how it wasn't even close.
This leads me to the question. How do you prepare to make that bang-bang call at first? What are your eyes watching for?

umpduck11 Sat Sep 10, 2005 10:01pm

Firstly,pay no attention to what the coaches
ramble on about.You will never make them all
happy,and half the time they are trying to get
into your head.The goal is to make you second-guess
yourself(sounds like it worked), in hopes that
the next one will go their way.If you missed it,
you have to move on to the next play,and forget
about that one.It happens to us all.
As for the banger at first, your eyes should be on
the bag,with your ears tuned in to the sound of
the ball hitting the glove/mitt.Learn to know which
came first,the foot or the sound.

briancurtin Sat Sep 10, 2005 10:05pm

just watch the whole play. let it happen, replay the situation in your head, then make a call. dont rush it, take your time and see everything then make the best call you can. after you make it, gather yourself and get to wherever you need to be next.

one of my college coaches always used to tell me (as a player) "baseball is a great game because you have a lot of time to think about the next play. baseball is also a tough game because you have a lot of time to think about the last play." dont let coaches/parents and their comments get to you. get in position for the next play and move on.

briancurtin Sat Sep 10, 2005 10:07pm

i guess i should have also answered the direct question about what to look for on a banger, but umpduck got it. watch the foot, hear the glove.

JEAPU2000 Sun Sep 11, 2005 08:04pm

One thing I would add is that, on any play, make sure that you are completely set to see the play. If you're moving when that ball and runner get there, you will have a much more difficult time getting it right. Also, once you're done seeing the foot hit the base and listening for the ball, remember to find the ball before you make your call. Look up and make sure that the fielder actually has the ball and then make your call. It's never fun to be calling out a runner as the ball is falling out of the fielder's glove.

umper Sun Sep 11, 2005 08:26pm

Thanks for the tips.
I guess what is frustrating for me is that on two of the three plays, I just wasn't sure of the call. Positioning got me on one. Ever have those plays that you just didn't see like you hoped you would? (everyone else in the park sure seemed to see it better!)
Something else I want to ask the veterans. Does the close call get easier with experience?

[Edited by umper on Sep 11th, 2005 at 09:28 PM]

JJ Sun Sep 11, 2005 10:35pm

Easier to call? Not necessarily. Easier to live with? Absolutely. The more you umpire, and/or work at umpiring, the more confidence you get. The more confidence you get, the easier the game is to umpire. But a whacker is a whacker is a whacker!

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jicecone Mon Sep 12, 2005 02:35pm

First of all accept the fact that you are horrible as a new official. (Nothing personal)

Unlike the teams playing the game, most of the time your only practice is their games. Where you go from there is entirely up to you. Clinics, umpire schools and camps, manuals. It is all out there.

When I first started, the resources were limited and in my third year I was ready to quit. I was bad. Don't take that advice. Utilize the resources available and become the best you can.

Yes it does get easier with experience. What may seem like a close call to others will become routine to you. But it is never THAT routine, that you can relax and get over confident, because then it will bite you in the you know what.

Good Luck

jpc2119 Mon Sep 12, 2005 06:05pm

What you have to keep in mind in games at that age group is that you're the only umpire there and you're not always going to be in the perfect position to make the call.
For calls at first, i try to run a few feet up the line, stare at the bag, and listen for the ball to hit the glove / watch the foot hit the bag.
Another problem I sometimes have at that age group is that fielders don't make quick tags. In upper-level games, if the ball beats the runner, they will usually be tagged out. In little league, the ball will often beat the runner but the tag is very slow and the runner often ends up safe.
And finally, the coaches should have no bearing. I know when I first started 3 years ago I always tried to keep the coaches happy, but that's pretty close to impossible for some people. Good Luck!

umpduck11 Mon Sep 12, 2005 06:39pm

Another thing you might consider,is to find
a veteran umpire in your area that you can relate to,
and trust. Ask him to help you along the way, to be
your "mentor".
The right mentor can be invaluable to your progress
in the avocation.
And remember, the more games you work,the more
you learn from your experiences,good or bad.

DG Mon Sep 12, 2005 10:54pm

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Originally posted by umper
Can anyone remember their first year umpiring for giving advice? I did my 2nd and 3rd games today with the little guys (10 and 11yrs.)
I had three close plays on the bases and all three calls went against one particular team. I really start second guessing my call when the coaches are rambling on about how it wasn't even close.
This leads me to the question. How do you prepare to make that bang-bang call at first? What are your eyes watching for?

In addition to the good suggestions here about watching the bag, and listening for the ball hitting the 1B glove I would suggest that you not be too close to the bag. 20 feet away with a good angle is better than 10 feet away with a good angle. From 20 feet, the play does not look as bang-bang as it does from 10 feet. On the big field 30 feet would not be excessive.

cowbyfan1 Tue Sep 13, 2005 01:42am

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Originally posted by DG
Quote:

Originally posted by umper
Can anyone remember their first year umpiring for giving advice? I did my 2nd and 3rd games today with the little guys (10 and 11yrs.)
I had three close plays on the bases and all three calls went against one particular team. I really start second guessing my call when the coaches are rambling on about how it wasn't even close.
This leads me to the question. How do you prepare to make that bang-bang call at first? What are your eyes watching for?

In addition to the good suggestions here about watching the bag, and listening for the ball hitting the 1B glove I would suggest that you not be too close to the bag. 20 feet away with a good angle is better than 10 feet away with a good angle. From 20 feet, the play does not look as bang-bang as it does from 10 feet. On the big field 30 feet would not be excessive.

Keep in mind that 20 or 30 feet away can end up not "looking" as good tho it is really not on, the 20 foot side especially. Some people think that if you are too far away that you will have blown that "banger" even if you nailed it. So while angle is always best, hustle will help with that distance. I think of it as a controlled hustle because too much hustle can lead to moving while making that call and possible getting you out of position for a subsuquent call.

Also keep you head in the game at all times. Tee mentioned it in an article on the paid side and I fight it myself sometimes. Get your head off in la-la land and something will happen that all the best distance and positioning will not help you with and could even mess with you on basic calls.

BigUmp56 Tue Sep 13, 2005 07:34am


Umper,

On all plays try to anticipate where the developing play will take the ball. Move to the best position afforded to you by the timing of the play, sacrificing distance for angle is a common trick of the trade. Don't worry about what a manager may think of the distance from the play you set yourself up in, in order to see the play. Managers for some reason feel that we should have our noses stuck right in on the play to see it well. That just isn't the case. Being to close in proximity to a banger will make the play explode on you, and you will miss calls.


Set yourself before making the call. Sell the call on bang-bang plays. By that I mean if it's a banger don't be shy about the mechanic you use to signal the call. Rise up from your set position after a brief pause and hammer him out with a downward punching motion.

Always remember to do three things when calling plays. "Pause, Read, and React"

These things along with the excelent advice others have given you will help you along on your journey.

Welcome to the "Fraternity of the Men in Blue"(or black, or red, or grey, or........)


Tim.

umpyre007 Tue Sep 13, 2005 07:40am

Quote:

Originally posted by umper
Can anyone remember their first year umpiring for giving advice? I did my 2nd and 3rd games today with the little guys (10 and 11yrs.)
I had three close plays on the bases and all three calls went against one particular team. I really start second guessing my call when the coaches are rambling on about how it wasn't even close.
This leads me to the question. How do you prepare to make that bang-bang call at first? What are your eyes watching for?

Timing, timing, timing... which will all come with experience.

PeteBooth Tue Sep 13, 2005 03:56pm

<i> Originally posted by umper </i>

<b> I had three close plays on the bases and all three calls went against one particular team. I really start second guessing my call when the coaches are rambling on about how it wasn't even close.
This leads me to the question. How do you prepare to make that bang-bang call at first? What are your eyes watching for? </b>

What no -one has mentioned thus far.

On the bang/bang plays or "coin flip" plays as they are referred to I have been taught as follows:

1. The defense makes a great play ie; F6 deep in the hole back hands one and fires to first. if it's that close then give the call to the defense. Conversely;

If the defense turns a routine play into a "coin flip" play then reward the offense. Ie; Routine ground ball to F6 who bobbles it and takes his time throwing to first. B1 is busting it out of the box. Again if the play is that close reward the offense.

As far as preparation goes, use angles instead of distance. IMO, that's the best advice.

As far as coaches complaining get used to it. Do not let the first base coach influence your call at first. Also, if it's a swipe tag/ pulled foot and you are NOT sure, go to your partner BEFORE making the call.

Pete Booth


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