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cowbyfan1 Fri Jul 29, 2005 12:56am

In talking about a dropped 3rd strike in an article Rollie says, "If more umpires would use the open hand signal by UIC to indicate no catch. If the mechanic were more popularly taught in clinics for newly initiated and semi-handicapped umpires."

I have always been told the proper mechanic is a safe signal. Is this new? Or an old mechanic?? Or a Rollie thing that no one knows what he is talking about like his Nile Valley League reference that can supposedly be found in a dictionary?

tcarilli Fri Jul 29, 2005 08:58am

I think he mains have the BU help out on checked swings when the ball is in the dirt. The BU can give a subtle fist or open hand to indicate catch (caught cleanly) no catch (not caught cleanly) by the catcher.

Tim C Fri Jul 29, 2005 09:17am

And,
 
Tony:

I simplify that even more.

I ONLY give the closed fist on a "caught ball."

If I give no signal it means "uncaught".

And I agree that is what Roland was aiming for . . . I think.

Matthew F Fri Jul 29, 2005 10:16am

What's this "Closed fist" sign? Do you mean the "Out" signal?

jicecone Fri Jul 29, 2005 10:23am

Quote:

Originally posted by Matthew F
What's this "Closed fist" sign? Do you mean the "Out" signal?

Can't speak for Tim but your probably right which is better than the usual one you get,

"The deer in the headlight signal"

largeone59 Fri Jul 29, 2005 01:02pm

I think Tim is talking more about a subtle closed fist down by your hip and not so much of an elaborate out call.

jumpmaster Fri Jul 29, 2005 01:14pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Matthew F
What's this "Closed fist" sign? Do you mean the "Out" signal?

this is a subtle sign given by your partner at about waist height. It let's him know that you have a catch.


Tim C Fri Jul 29, 2005 01:20pm

Y'all
 
Nailed it . . . subtle but not secret.

Sometimes mine is pants pocket high.

tcarilli Fri Jul 29, 2005 02:02pm

Re: And,
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Tim C
Tony:

I simplify that even more.

I ONLY give the closed fist on a "caught ball."

If I give no signal it means "uncaught".

And I agree that is what Roland was aiming for . . . I think.

Simplicity is a good thing, however, I like to avoid ambiguity, if I can. So I'll trade some simplicity for some clarity. In any event, I have had a few sh!thouses avoided by making use of this mechanic.

I also advocate for things like run downs, especially in three man crews, and for plays like the Tim Tschida-Chuck Knoblach tag play during the playoffs some years ago, again in three man. It is also useful for swipe tags and pulled feet at first.


tcarilli Fri Jul 29, 2005 02:03pm

Quote:

Originally posted by largeone59
I think Tim is talking more about a subtle closed fist down by your hip and not so much of an elaborate out call.
That is what I was talking about, justing making a fist or open hand (some guys I work with point at the ground instead) down by your thigh.

bob jenkins Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:42pm

Re: Y'all
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Tim C
Nailed it . . . subtle but not secret.

Sometimes mine is pants pocket high.

But, of course, as we get older, "pants pocket high" is about where "waist high" used to be. ;)


cowbyfan1 Sat Jul 30, 2005 12:40am

See I was reading that the UIC was giving the signal. I can see that by the BU.


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