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TriggerMN Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:11am

Last night I'm working the plate for a amateur town ball 1st round playoff game, pro pitching rules. In the bottom of the 10th, the home team gets guys on 1st and 2nd. The batter squares to sacrifice, but the pitch runs in on him and nails him right in the junk. Unfortunately, he never pulled the bat back. Guy goes down like he's been shot, and I call a dead ball strike on the offer.

The two coaches come running in from their boxes...then the guy tells us he's not wearing a cup! The coach tells him to take his time...all I can think of saying is the old adage, "Don't rub it."

Anyways, the guy stayed in the game and of course struck out. But now he's got a good story to tell his children, if he still can father any. :)

Matt Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:14am

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Originally posted by TriggerMN
Last night I'm working the plate for a amateur town ball 1st round playoff game, pro pitching rules. In the bottom of the 10th, the home team gets guys on 1st and 2nd. The batter squares to sacrifice, but the pitch runs in on him and nails him right in the junk. Unfortunately, he never pulled the bat back. Guy goes down like he's been shot, and I call a dead ball strike on the offer.

The two coaches come running in from their boxes...then the guy tells us he's not wearing a cup! The coach tells him to take his time...all I can think of saying is the old adage, "Don't rub it."

Anyways, the guy stayed in the game and of course struck out. But now he's got a good story to tell his children, if he still can father any. :)

Who was playing? I can think of a few town ball players to which I wouldn't mind having that happen.

[Edited by Matt on Jul 25th, 2005 at 01:19 AM]

LDUB Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:24am

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Originally posted by TriggerMN
Unfortunately, he never pulled the bat back.
Pulling the bat back means nothing. You have to decide if he tried to strike the ball or not.

ozzy6900 Mon Jul 25, 2005 05:22am

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Originally posted by TriggerMN
.... Unfortunately, he never pulled the bat back. Guy goes down like he's been shot, and I call a dead ball strike on the offer.
Uhh, you need to read up on the rules! Holding the bat over the plate is not an offer.


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..... Anyways, the guy stayed in the game and of course struck out. But now he's got a good story to tell his children, if he still can father any. :)
Yeah, the story is that the umpire doesn't know the rules!


Tim C Mon Jul 25, 2005 09:13am

Hahaha,
 
Another umpire, placing in writing, that he does not know the rules.

Amazing.

officialtony Mon Jul 25, 2005 10:43am

TriggerMN,
I'm sure you meant to say that unfortunately he offered at the pitch and then got nailed - right?
Because you already knew that just holding the bat still does not constitute an attempted bunt - right?
At least, I'm interpreting your post that way.
In any case being hit there does hurt. I wear mine whether I am BU or PU - habit I guess. I have never been hit as BU but a few times as PU. Plus I never know when I show up, if I may have to do the plate and it saves time from installing the darn thing.

[Edited by officialtony on Jul 25th, 2005 at 11:54 AM]

GarthB Mon Jul 25, 2005 10:53am

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Originally posted by officialtony
TriggerMN,
I'm sure you meant to say that unfortunately he offered at the pitch and then got nailed - right?
Because you already knew that just holding the bat still does not constitute an attempted bunt - right?
At least, I'm interpreting your post that way.
In any case being hit there does hurt. I wear mine whether I am BU or PU - habit I guess. I have never been hit there as BU but a few times as PU. Plus I never know when I show up, if I may have to do the plate and it saves time from installing the darn thing.

[Edited by officialtony on Jul 25th, 2005 at 11:48 AM]

Yeahhhh...that's what he meant....."he offered at the pitch"....yeahhh....that's right...he knew it all along...

bellsjc Mon Jul 25, 2005 01:03pm

You guys are rough!!!

dudeinblue Mon Jul 25, 2005 02:09pm

more umpires being smart-a$$es....imagine that

mikebran Mon Jul 25, 2005 02:21pm

Ok.. WHAT I am trying to assertain is WHAT in the world the story of the "batter who gets hit in the nuts" has to do with the game under "pro pitching rules"?

Was this so we didn't get confused by the MANY MANY leagues and organizations where getting hit in the nuts awards you extra bases.. or none? ARrgghhh!


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Originally posted by TriggerMN
Last night I'm working the plate for a amateur town ball 1st round playoff game, pro pitching rules.



TriggerMN Mon Jul 25, 2005 04:37pm

Guy tries to bunt the ball and gets hit in the wedding tackle. What's so hard to understand about that?

Pro pitching rules. They're different from NFHS pitching rules. For instance, these guys have to throw the pitches on an intentional walk. Also, a balk by the pitcher is still a live ball in pro rules; in NFHS the ball is dead immediately.

Who doesn't know the rules?

dudeinblue Mon Jul 25, 2005 04:43pm

good one Trigger. What up now Mike you smart-a$$

dudeinblue Mon Jul 25, 2005 04:43pm

good one Trigger. What up now Mike you smart-a$$? Arrgghh!

NFump Mon Jul 25, 2005 07:26pm

"Guy goes down like he's been shot, and I call a dead ball strike on the offer."

Hmmm...sounds like he judged that the batter offered at the pitch or didn't somebody notice that?

GarthB Mon Jul 25, 2005 07:57pm

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Originally posted by NFump
"Guy goes down like he's been shot, and I call a dead ball strike on the offer."

Hmmm...sounds like he judged that the batter offered at the pitch or didn't somebody notice that?

Read the whole reference instead of cherry picking:

<i>" Unfortunately, he never pulled the bat back. Guy goes down like he's been shot, and I call a dead ball strike on the offer.""<i>

The inference appears to that not pulling the bat back is being equated with an "offer", which is untrue.



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