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Lapopez Sun Jul 24, 2005 08:13pm

This year I have been frequently asked by players and coaches what my strike zone is. Would I be justified in saying anything other than "by the book," which is what I always say?

briancurtin Sun Jul 24, 2005 09:26pm

"its in the book"

id just try and keep it simple

bbump82 Sun Jul 24, 2005 09:43pm

My Zone
 
I've told them "Let's get started and well all find out."
I have gotten mixed reactions this.

ChapJim Sun Jul 24, 2005 09:51pm

I try to keep 'em guessing!

jicecone Sun Jul 24, 2005 10:17pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Lapopez
This year I have been frequently asked by players and coaches what my strike zone is. Would I be justified in saying anything other than "by the book," which is what I always say?
I always come back and ask, "how's your pitching?" Hope it can hit my strike zone.

Or, "its where ever I say it is."

Generally in decent ball games, where the boy shave,(and don't take this personal), you don't get these types of questions.

DG Sun Jul 24, 2005 10:33pm

I had a catcher ask me today where the pitcher's curve was missing. I said "which one?". He said he didn't know, coach said to ask. I said if you don't know which one, don't ask. Really good catcher, caught 2 games on a 95 degree day, the second one went 8, blocked everything, and I could tell he really enjoyed playing, he was always smiling and making positive comments, and we had conversation going throughout the game. I love catchers who play like he did. Both my sons were catchers.

JRutledge Sun Jul 24, 2005 10:52pm

Whatever the rulebook says it is.

I do not nit pick close pitches. I like to call strikes.

Peace

tornado Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:12am

Hittable pitches.

BigUmp56 Mon Jul 25, 2005 06:10am

Lapopez,


When asked by coaches prior to the game what my strike zone is, I reply, it is that area over the plate that a pitch enters and you don't hear me call "ball!"

Yes, I do call both balls and strikes. (I don't call swinging strikes)



Tim.
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As umpires, we are the only ones in the world expected to be perfect on our first day on the job, and improve from there!

tjones1 Mon Jul 25, 2005 07:43am

I've thought about saying that I didn't know because it was my first game.

LMan Mon Jul 25, 2005 08:47am

"You'll find out soon enough"

ozzy6900 Mon Jul 25, 2005 09:15am

coach "Hey Blue, what's your strike zone?"

me "How about those Red Sox?"

coach "No really Blue, what's your strike zone?"

me "Mine is fine, how's your's?"

Sooner or later they get the idea.

Striker991 Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:16pm

What's your Strike Zone?
 
"Hey Blue! What's your Strike Zone?"

Any pitch that is not in the ball zone!

greymule Mon Jul 25, 2005 02:05pm

Why not be honest?

"It depends on the overall quality of the pitching and hitting, the score, the count, the outs, how far the game has progressed, my mood at the time of the pitch, and whether the pitch involves anyone who has been mouthing off."

EMD Mon Jul 25, 2005 03:00pm

I never answer that questions, why give a coach something he can use against you later. I watched a game when the PU provided a definition of "his zone." When a coach disagreed he hollered, "That wasn't a strike in the pre-game!"

After watching that conversation for 3 innings, I decided never give more information to a coach than required. Besides, we all read the same rule book.

DownTownTonyBrown Mon Jul 25, 2005 03:09pm

Whole heartedly - AGREED
 
Quote:

Originally posted by EMD
I never answer that questions, why give a coach something he can use against you later. I watched a game when the PU provided a definition of "his zone." When a coach disagreed he hollered, "That wasn't a strike in the pre-game!"

After watching that conversation for 3 innings, I decided never give more information to a coach than required. Besides, we all read the same rule book.

I can't agree more. It just gives them something to gouge you with. The first time your perception differs from theirs you are going to hear about it... so why try to define your perception?

It only takes a few pitches to find out so let's wait until they happen.

bbump82 Mon Jul 25, 2005 06:36pm

why not be honest?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by greymule
Why not be honest?

"It depends on the overall quality of the pitching and hitting, the score, the count, the outs, how far the game has progressed, my mood at the time of the pitch, and whether the pitch involves anyone who has been mouthing off."

Because of the exact reason that EMD had in his post. But I can go one better, I had the pleasure of doing the field in a game that the PU did this. During the plate meeting, and I quote; "..., I want your guys swinging, strikes will be shoulders to the knees, and a couple of ball widths of each side of the plate."

I almost choked, we then preceded to play a very looooooooong game because he actually didn't call anywhere near a big of a strike zone as he indicated.

The rats get enough material to argue about on their own, why should I give them more to work with?

briancurtin Mon Jul 25, 2005 07:57pm

Re: What's your Strike Zone?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Striker991
"Hey Blue! What's your Strike Zone?"

Any pitch that is not in the ball zone!

i like this one haha

LDUB Mon Jul 25, 2005 08:47pm

Re: why not be honest?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bbump82
The rats get enough material to argue about on their own, why should I give them more to work with?
Because you feel like ejecting someone.

bluezebra Tue Jul 26, 2005 12:57am

My reply always was, "I don't have one. I quit playing years ago. If you want to know the definition of the strike zone, read the rule book. If you want me to hold a clinic on the rules, we'll do it after the game, and I charge $20 an hour".

Bob

bbump82 Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:04am

Re: Re: why not be honest?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by LDUB
Quote:

Originally posted by bbump82
The rats get enough material to argue about on their own, why should I give them more to work with?
Because you feel like ejecting someone.

LDUB, that would be a good reason, but I still don't think I will start discussing it at the plate. As far as dumping, from what I have read on this site in the past, I don't do enough of it. I don't work an awful lot of games, but in the five years that I have been officiating, I've only dumped two people (one coach & one player). I had one a couple of weeks ago that was close. Was commenting on my zone to the point that I asked him if he wanted to argue about it. He realized where I was going and decided he wanted to stay. Smart, who said you can't teach a rat something?

Tim C Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:36am

Hmmm,
 
Well when Doug Harvey was asked his strike zone he kept it simple:

And "God" said: "If I like it, it is a strike!"

Nuff said for me.

[Edited by Tim C on Jul 26th, 2005 at 12:48 PM]

mcrowder Tue Jul 26, 2005 12:42pm

bbump, please contact http://www.comedy.com and purchase a sense of humor.

cowbyfan1 Wed Jul 27, 2005 02:20am

Quote:

Originally posted by tornado
Hittable pitches.
Wow! I really hope your definition of a hittable pitch is different than mine.

Rich Coyle Wed Jul 27, 2005 07:26am

"Tell them to come up prepared to swing the bats."

officialtony Wed Jul 27, 2005 09:02am

My son was asked what kind of strike zone I had when a did a game some of his buddies were in. He told them ( and I told him this because I read it somewhere - probably here ), " if my dad is behind the plate, you better be swinging with two strikes ".
I use the same philosophy as was stated earlier by Tee as a quote to Doug Harvey - if I like it, it is a strike.
( that measn it was in MY strike zone and that is good enough for me !)

bbump82 Wed Jul 27, 2005 12:02pm

Being funny?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by mcrowder
bbump, please contact http://www.comedy.com and purchase a sense of humor.
Hey, thanks for the link!

I might have to use it someday, when I actually try to crack a joke.

Stripes1950 Wed Jul 27, 2005 01:06pm

I worked with several different umpires over the years and found that they generally have a much wider zone than I do although I like to give the pitchers the corners. I probably call a higher strike (letters and knees) but if asked prior to the game, I just tell them that "I call 'em as I see 'em." After the first inning or so, the crabbing usually stops. What it comes down to is when I played as a catcher, I liked the umps who were consistent. If he called a ball below the knee for both teams, then I knew where to set up.

Diamondgal Wed Jul 27, 2005 08:37pm

I had to ask myself where my strike zone was during a couple of innings today! Yuck!!

cowbyfan1 Thu Jul 28, 2005 02:07am

The rare times I have been asked I just reply with either a "your about to see" or "where I call it". Been a couple years since I have heard someone ask that tho.

bluezebra Fri Jul 29, 2005 01:31am

"That wasn't a strike in the pre-game!"

There wasn't a pitch in the pre-game.

Bob


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