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Originally posted by mcrowder
Sorry for offending, Tim. I assure you (and think I've proven over time here - ironically ON the internet) that I'm not just an internet umpire.

To me, this semantic difference is important, and is often the reason that otherwise good umpires (on the field, not the net) often get this rule wrong. (And OBR didn't help with their misprint). I stress this difference at both my umpires' clinics and my coaches' clinics.

When you tell someone there's no such rule about running out of a baseline, you make them think. You make them define what they really meant, and apply the rules to the case at hand

I guarantee that if there was no myth that running outside the baseline was illegal, the initial post would not have ever been a question in anyone's mind.

Come on MC....Aren't we getting too technical here, and smoozing up to Tim too????

BRD 2005 Section: 411 "RUNNER: ESTABLISHES BASE PATH"

Tom Lepperd, Director of Umpire Administration for MLB states, "the moment a fielder with the ball sprints toward a runner, the runner's baseline is now a direct line between his position and any base."

I guess he misread their "misprint" too.

I can appreciate your endeavor to get it right but.

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Originally posted by Tim C
mcrowder:

I am not offended. That is why I used the term "anecdotal" so you would see that I was just using this specific post to make a point.

Now Garth and I totally disagree on the following:

I think we are way silly when we take a broadcaster to task when he says "foul tip" when it is really a "foul ball". I also don't think it has much value whether you use "obstruction" and "interference" interchangably.

While I, on the on the other hand, believe that those who make a living commenting on baseball should at least have the intelligence and training to use proper terminology.

Alas, in this disagreement, Tee is much closer to the real world. So many of the on-air air=heads really don't know the difference between a foul tip and a foul ball.

However, Tim and I agree on the larger issue of "internet umpires." A recent example ocurred on a private list we both belong to. A debate over how often to "give the count" involved over 200 posts.....sheeeesh.

[Edited by GarthB on Jul 18th, 2005 at 06:27 PM]

Simple question + simple answer = P*issing contest.

And y'all make fun of eteamz? (not that they're any better...)

What final decision regarding the count did you come to? Anything?

And I thought this was a simple question with a simple answer, easy 2 post. Holy cow!