Illegal Courtesy Runner But Legal Substitute!!!

[Thom Coste]

2D) B4 hits a triple but bats out of order. Discovery is made before the next legal pitch but the batter who is up next is an illegal substitute who is in the batter's box(no pitch has been thrown). Usually, in B4's case, the proper batter would be declared out and all runners would be returned to their base at the time of the pitch. But according to 3-1-1-1 the penalty for illegal substitution shall supersede the penalty for batting out of order. So does this mean that you call the illegal substitute out, eject him and let the hit stand for the improper batter B4 since the penalty for illegal substitution supersedes the penalty for batting out of order?

No. The "penalty for illegal sub suprecedes penalty for BOO" is meant to apply only if the illegal sub is the one batting out of order.

This particular play is not covered, IMHO, in the rules or case book. I'd enforce whatever error was discovered first -- in this instance, the BOO. So, B4 is removed from the bases, whoever was supposed to bat is out, the next batter is due up. If the illegal sub now appears in the box, another out can be declared.

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Assuming the ball was, or became, live while the illegal sub was in the batter's box, I think you can get both regardless of the order of discovery. That is, the BOO would not be cancelled by the mere appearance and/or discovery of the illegal player, nor would the illegal substitution be negated by the enforcement of the BOO. The violations are exclusive of each other.