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TriggerMN Wed Jun 22, 2005 09:50am

Batter hits a soft liner off the end of the bat. The ball lands in the outfield grass fair past first base. However, the backspin on the ball causes the ball to roll back toward the infield, where it crosses the foul line between home and first. Fair or foul?

aevans410 Wed Jun 22, 2005 09:56am

Fair.

The ball became fair once it contacted fair ground past first base.

Tim C Wed Jun 22, 2005 10:12am

And,
 
Which will invariably turn the thread to the difference between OBR and FED on a pop-up that lands in certain areas of the infield and then rolls foul.

-Sigh-


aevans410 Wed Jun 22, 2005 10:15am

I wasn't gonna go there Tee, but of course your right.

Matthew F Wed Jun 22, 2005 11:03am

Re: And,
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Tim C
Which will invariably turn the thread to the difference between OBR and FED on a pop-up that lands in certain areas of the infield and then rolls foul.

-Sigh-



Yep! That "fair line" is a line from 1B to 3B, if I recall correctly.

Buckeye12 Thu Jun 23, 2005 09:33am

Could someone expand on this OBR and FED rule difference?

Matthew F Thu Jun 23, 2005 10:09am

The rules are pretty much identical, except FED specifically states (adds) that a batted ball is fair if it contacts fair ground on or beyond an imaginary line between first and third base.

Tim C Thu Jun 23, 2005 11:02am

Hmmmmm,
 
I must be remembering wrong.

I thought there was a SPECIFIC difference in the rulings.

As I remember it (and I could be very wrong this time):

FED = If a ball lands in the area behind a direct line between first and third and some how rolls back to foul ground INSIDE that line, the ball is FAIR.

OBR = If a ball lands in the area behind a direct line between first and third and some how rolls back to foul ground INSIDE that line, the ball is FOUL.

Now I need to look into this further but that is how I REMEMBER the discussion from previous threads.

AGAIN, I could be mistaken on this one.

Edited to correct references.


[Edited by Tim C on Jun 23rd, 2005 at 01:17 PM]

UmpJM Thu Jun 23, 2005 11:54am

Tim C.,

There IS a specific difference, but I believe you have the rulings reversed between FED and OBR.

JM

Tim C Thu Jun 23, 2005 12:16pm

Yeah,
 
I thought so when I typed it.

EDIT: I am going to edit the above post.

jumpmaster Thu Jun 23, 2005 01:21pm

Re: Yeah,
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Tim C
I thought so when I typed it.

EDIT: I am going to edit the above post.

NEWS FLASH!!!!!

Tim C has received a correction from a coach and accepted it graciously.

Rats cheer. Cats shudder. This appears to be the second sign that the apocolypse is upon us. The first was the acquital of Micheal Jackson...:D

mbyron Thu Jun 23, 2005 07:04pm

No, no - the acquital was business as usual.

And a "kinder, gentler" Tee is no cause for alarm, I'm sure. ;)


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