1. 2 man system, with a runner on first. Pitcher throws to first while run stumbles off the base. No one else on base. Runner gets in a run down. Would the plate umpire come out to help assist the the base umpire with the run down call?

2. Runner on 2nd breaks for third. RHP, while still connected to the pitching plate throws to 3rd base to get runner. Is this a balk?

Thanks for the help!

Yes. PU should move toward first, then "join" the rundown when the play is moving toward second.

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2. Runner on 2nd breaks for third. RHP, while still connected to the pitching plate throws to 3rd base to get runner. Is this a balk?

Not a balk.

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Not a balk.
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...if he stepped toward 3b to make the throw.

Not a balk.
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...if he stepped toward 3b to make the throw. [/B][/QUOTE]

or properly came off the rubber and ran at the runner

The PU can join if the play is coming towards him but make sure the runner is most of the way towards second. Either way let your partner know "I'm at first". Until he hears that he should make all calls.

But,
 

We don't say "I'm at First" . . .

For years the correct communication was,: "I've got this half!"

The current communication being taught is: "I've got this END!"

Details, details, details . . .

with 2 it acualy depends

on where in his system he is
if he is just on the rubber no
if he is set no
if he is in his wind up yes
if he is in his in his delivery obviously yes

We have a new winner:
 

Oh my God!

drumbum, you win, hands down!

Thanks, its hard to tell if your being sarcastic or not so ill assume you arn't.

With just 14 posts, he is off to a roaring start.

Please take up JumpMaster & LDUB's advice in purchasing a grammer book.

drumb and drumber?

Drumb - you've posted a good number of highly illegible posts. I know - hard to be illegible when you type... but you've managed.

First - if you want ANY respect around here, try to type with some readable grammar and get rid of the 12-year old shorthand. I think everyone here has the impression you are about 14 years old.

Second - STOP posting as if you are an authority when you clearly don't know the rule. READ all of the posts before you type. There are some highly knowledgeable umpires on this board. You could learn a LOT if you stick around.

Now - to this post. The only one you got right was, "if he is in his in his delivery obviously yes", and even that was was hard to read to read.

If you are going to continue to umpire (no wonder that one team from the other post hates you... you have "issues" with the rules), try the rulebook.

"if he is just on the rubber no" -- not true. He must either disengage properly or step toward third base when throwing.
"if he is set no" - ditto
"if he is in his wind up yes" not true depending on the rule set being used by this league. In most rulesets, it is legal to move directly from windup to throwing to a base if done properly.

You are correct. I reread my balk rules and I was mistaken. However each situation except the third it also depends it can go either way. Yet the way i was thinking, you were correct.


And fyi its drum-bum as in drums. I just combined it in to one word.

I hope this was done in jest.