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kkid091 Tue May 31, 2005 12:47pm

Pitcher comes to set position, lifts his head up and down, not truning to look at first, like he is nodding, then stops, and throws to first, the nodding was an indication he was throwing over to first.
Is this a balk?
Same senario, but throws home,
Is this a balk?

TBBlue Tue May 31, 2005 12:54pm

Nuttin' on either scenario.

ChapJim Tue May 31, 2005 12:58pm

If you are going to call a balk, you should have a rule to cover it. I can't think of anything that prohibits a pitcher from merely nodding (or shaking) his head.


Tim C Tue May 31, 2005 01:06pm

Chappy
 
I was always taught that it was impossible for a pitcher to balk with his head, do you agree?

ChapJim Tue May 31, 2005 01:49pm

Re: Chappy
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Tim C
I was always taught that it was impossible for a pitcher to balk with his head, do you agree?
Ummmm. Delivering the ball to the batter without facing the batter??? You wanna count that as balking with his head??? It's the only thing I can think of!!!

TBBlue Tue May 31, 2005 01:56pm

Re: Re: Chappy
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ChapJim
Quote:

Originally posted by Tim C
I was always taught that it was impossible for a pitcher to balk with his head, do you agree?
Ummmm. Delivering the ball to the batter without facing the batter??? You wanna count that as balking with his head??? It's the only thing I can think of!!!

Not the same. Many pitchers are looking at second base when starting the delivery. I take not facing the batter to mean he originally set up not facing the batter...such as wind up position facing second base.

PeteBooth Tue May 31, 2005 02:27pm

<i> Originally posted by kkid091 </i>

<b> Pitcher comes to set position, lifts his head up and down, not truning to look at first, like he is nodding, then stops, and throws to first, the nodding was an indication he was throwing over to first.
Is this a balk? </b>

As Tee said you cannot balk with one's head.

When F1 comes set as an umpire I do not even look at F1's head. I make certain he is in contact with the pitcher's plate, and look for any illegal shoulder movement or separation of the hands. He can look up and down all day long for all I care.

If your runner gets picked off because of F1 moving his head up / down - Poor Baserunning / Coaching

Pete Booth

GarthB Wed Jun 01, 2005 11:59am

Re: Chappy
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Tim C
I was always taught that it was impossible for a pitcher to balk with his head, do you agree?
IIITBWOH?

LMan Wed Jun 01, 2005 12:03pm

Re: Re: Chappy
 
Quote:

Originally posted by GarthB
Quote:

Originally posted by Tim C
I was always taught that it was impossible for a pitcher to balk with his head, do you agree?
IIITBWOH?

HTBT, but still ROTFL :D

UmpJM Wed Jun 01, 2005 12:17pm

Re: Re: Chappy
 
Quote:

Originally posted by GarthB
Quote:

Originally posted by Tim C
I was always taught that it was impossible for a pitcher to balk with his head, do you agree?
IIITBWOH?

I would go so far as to suggest that neither "almost" nor "nearly" is required to make <b>this</b> one true.

JM

jicecone Wed Jun 01, 2005 03:16pm

Quote:

Originally posted by kkid091
Pitcher comes to set position, lifts his head up and down, not truning to look at first, like he is nodding, then stops, and throws to first, the nodding was an indication he was throwing over to first.
Is this a balk?
Same senario, but throws home,
Is this a balk?

Nodding is allowed, 360 degree turns and ear movement is deceptive and therefore illegal, unless the pitcher steps towards the base, prior to his head stopping in the direction of that base. OBR 8.05n

mcrowder Wed Jun 01, 2005 03:41pm

:) !!!


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