I know the answer is probably going to be none or close to none. But, how much do you allow/take from an assisant coach?

To quote Tee, "assistant coaches DO NOT EXIST".

Assistant coach? It doesn't bother me to hear them yell "Take a turn" or "Back, Back!" That's about it.

Thank ya....

How much do I allow? He's allowed to bring me a lineup, or say Howyadoin' Blue on his way to his box. That's about it.

How much do I take? Implies he's complaining about something. If it's tame, I might tell head coach that I hear some buzzing from the coaches direction that needs to stop. If not... buhbye.

I don't go as far as Tee by not acknowledging their existence. I might answer a question if asked nicely, but I'm not taking much grief from one. Last Sunday, I had a 1B coach, who, after a called 3rd strike to end the half inning said something like "come on Blue, it's where it crosses the plate, not where the catcher catches it" as he walked by me to his dugout. I looked him in the eyes as he walked past and made no comment until he was several feet away and then said "note that I am ignoring you", and I immmediatly thought to myself, "I just baited him", and I guess I did, but he did not take the bait and all went smoothly from there. He did not make any more comments. I am NOT going to get into an arguement with an assistant

Just making sure I'm not the only one.....


So in other words... it doesn't take much to lanuch one?

No - not much at all. I would have launched the one that DG baited.

Assistants are like children. They are to be seen and not heard.

Peace

I normally shoot the stop sign at them, if that doesn't shut em up, see ya.

Gentlemen,

I am currently involved with coaching two baseball teams. On one team, I am the Manager/Head Coach while on the other, I am an Assistant Coach. On the team where I am the Assistant Coach, should an occasion arise during a game where we believe the umpire(s) may have misapplied a rule in making a decision, I represent our team in the discussion with the umpire(s).

I suggest that this is proper, legal, and the <b>team's</b> decision rather than the umpires'.

What do you think?

JM

You must not have children and if you do you don't have any fun with them.

Your skin must be really thin. It was a near harmless commment to me. It certainly had no bearing on my calling of the game, and he made no further comments after I told him I was ignoring him.

The head coach has priviledges that assistants do not. The head coach is the official representative of the team. I do not discuss issues with assistants.

I'm with Garth. I had a coach try this crap during a basketball game and he got promptly whacked.

Rich & GB,

Come on now, I thought the umpires had to follow the rules too.

"<i><b>Rule 2.0

THE MANAGER</b> is a person appointed by the club to be responsible for the team's actions on the field, and to represent the team in communications with the umpire and the opposing team. A player may be appointed manager.

....

(b) <b>The manager may advise the umpire that he has delegated specific duties prescribed by the rules to a player or coach, and any action of such designated representative shall be official</b>. The manager shall always be responsible for his team's conduct, observance of the official rules, and deference to the umpires.</i>"

Since "communications with the umpire" is a "specific dut[y] prescribed by the rules" which the manager may "delegate ... to a ... coach", it would seem that you're refusal to talk to such a coach could be deemed "contrary to these rules" - i.e., <b>illegal</b>.

Am I missing something here? ;-)

Certainly not suggesting that the umpires should tolerate a "committee of coaches" in any discussion.

JM

(edited to reflect the actual text of the rules & add the "committee" comment)

[Edited by CoachJM on May 6th, 2005 at 07:45 PM]

Assistnt Coaches

They go good with a little mustard and basted with BBQ Sauce.

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Assistant coaches are there for the players only. They are not to communicate with the umpires about anything other than "Hi & How are you".

Missing nothing coach, just guilty of coachlike logic and stringing together items to attempt to justify your position. It really doesn't necessarily follow that "communications with the umpire" is a "specific duty" may "delegate ... to a ... coach", however what does properly always remain in place is "The manager shall always be responsible for his team's conduct, observance of the official rules, and deference to the umpires".

Thanks for your input, however.

For me personally, it takes a lot, whether HC or AC or me to throw them. That being said, I will give the HC a lot more latitude than the AC; further, if I have an AC come onto the field to argue rather than the manager, he might as well keep on running to his car. But as far as chirping and stuff, both HCs and ACs don't exist for me unless it starts to get out of hand.

Typical spaghetti logic from a coach that has figured out how to open up a rule book. Thank you, drive thru. Here's your cheese.

CoachJM
 

I do not discuss anything with assistants.

Period.

They can say: "Take two and hit to right" and,

"round the bag, round the bag!"

See my article soon to appear on the paid portion of this site.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by CoachJM
[B]Rich & GB,

Come on now, I thought the umpires had to follow the rules too.

"<i><b>Rule 2.0

THE MANAGER</b> is a person appointed by the club to be responsible for the team's actions on the field, and to represent the team in communications with the umpire and the opposing team. A player may be appointed manager.

....

(b) <b>The manager may advise the umpire that he has delegated specific duties prescribed by the rules to a player or coach, and any action of such designated representative shall be official</b>. The manager shall always be responsible for his team's conduct, observance of the official rules, and deference to the umpires.</i>"

Since "communications with the umpire" is a "specific dut[y] prescribed by the rules" which the manager may "delegate ... to a ... coach", it would seem that you're refusal to talk to such a coach could be deemed "contrary to these rules" - i.e., <b>illegal</b>.

Am I missing something here? ;-)

JM

QUOTE]

Yes you are missing something here coach!

Once the manager advises the umpire that he has delegated specific duties prescribed by the rules to a player or coach, any action of such designated representative shall be official.

Which means that person is now the manager.

THE MANAGER</b> is a person appointed by the club to be responsible for the team's actions on the field, and to represent the team in communications with the umpire and the opposing team. A player may be appointed manager.

The manager shall always be responsible for his team's conduct, observance of the official rules, and deference to the umpires.

I tell the HCs in the pregame something to the effect that "your team has one voice on any 'discussions' with me, and that voice is you, none other."