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dddunn3d Mon Jan 10, 2005 01:14pm

none out, no one on, 1-2 count

During the pitcher's delivery, the ball slips out out of the pitcher's hand and starts rolling towards home plate. The roll is relativly slow, but it is apparent that it will reach home plate. The batter, thinking on his feet, lays the bat down in front of home plate and starts running for first base.

A) and is still running when the ball meets the bat

B) the runner turns and watches the ball meet the bat, and when it is about to, hops in the air, clearly not having a foot in contact with the ground when the two objects meet

C) (Situations A and/or B may override this situation altogether) The ball rolls foul after meeting the bat (remember the batter already has two strikes against him)

D) The catcher picks up the ball before it reaches the bat and throws it to first

E) Any other defensive player picks up the ball before it reaches the bat and throws it to first base

What's your call or no call in each situation?


jicecone Mon Jan 10, 2005 02:59pm

Quote:

Originally posted by dddunn3d
none out, no one on, 1-2 count

During the pitcher's delivery, the ball slips out out of the pitcher's hand and starts rolling towards home plate. The roll is relativly slow, but it is apparent that it will reach home plate. The batter, thinking on his feet, lays the bat down in front of home plate and starts running for first base.

A) and is still running when the ball meets the bat

B) the runner turns and watches the ball meet the bat, and when it is about to, hops in the air, clearly not having a foot in contact with the ground when the two objects meet

C) (Situations A and/or B may override this situation altogether) The ball rolls foul after meeting the bat (remember the batter already has two strikes against him)

D) The catcher picks up the ball before it reaches the bat and throws it to first

E) Any other defensive player picks up the ball before it reaches the bat and throws it to first base

What's your call or no call in each situation?


A. The runner is out for running away from a prearranged Ball/Bat conjugal visit, without the express written consent of their parents. In Mississippi this is a misdemeanor.

B.This runner is definitely out for entering FAA airspace during a ball/bat meeting without a pilots license or a prenuptial agreement.

C.This was tricky at first however after many hours of consideration and delirium, this is a no call situation. In accordance with the recent NFHS rule changes, "ALL foul balls result in a "NO Call" declaration by Officials, unless used in a concientious program of oral hygiene or dental health.

D. You may declare either the catcher or runner out however, the ball and bat automatically receieve honrable mention in that days box score report. On Fridays, the third baseman is instantly ejected by appeal, prior to the first baseman receiving the ball and only after the catcher has requested "May I" three times.

E. OBR rule 16.7896. ANY defensive player that touches or thinks about touching a ball, prior to its ultimate destinty with a bat, may not proceed to go an/or/mabey collect $200.00. Under all circumstances, anyone involved in answering this thread is immmediately expelled from the face of the planet and must proceed directly to their ROOM.

I certainly hope this confuses your dilemma because I hereby nominate this as "Question of the Year". Any year.

Tim C Mon Jan 10, 2005 03:16pm

Hmmm,
 
Now let me get this straight:

We don't have ENOUGH TWPs on this site alone -- we now need to import them from eTeamSleeze.

Sheese, let's talk real baseball umpiring.

Tee

gordon30307 Mon Jan 10, 2005 03:46pm

Quote:

Originally posted by dddunn3d
none out, no one on, 1-2 count

During the pitcher's delivery, the ball slips out out of the pitcher's hand and starts rolling towards home plate. The roll is relativly slow, but it is apparent that it will reach home plate. The batter, thinking on his feet, lays the bat down in front of home plate and starts running for first base.

A) and is still running when the ball meets the bat

B) the runner turns and watches the ball meet the bat, and when it is about to, hops in the air, clearly not having a foot in contact with the ground when the two objects meet

C) (Situations A and/or B may override this situation altogether) The ball rolls foul after meeting the bat (remember the batter already has two strikes against him)

D) The catcher picks up the ball before it reaches the bat and throws it to first

E) Any other defensive player picks up the ball before it reaches the bat and throws it to first base

What's your call or no call in each situation?


Call the batter out, eject him and forfeit the game and never umpire again and now I can die because I have seen everything and don't waste everyones time with stupid plays that have never happened in the past nor will they ever happen in the future.

umpduck11 Mon Jan 10, 2005 08:08pm

Works for me too, Gordon,lol......

GarthB Tue Jan 11, 2005 12:01am

Amazing.
 
I just had to see it to believe it, so I wandered over and sure as he!! this thread not only exists, some "internet" umpires are actually treating it seriously. Some of the answers are absolutely astounding.

Ahhhh, Sleazeteamz...it never disappoints.

dddunn3d Tue Jan 11, 2005 07:05am

I was equally amused at the prospect of this play (or variations thereof) ever happening, even on the small field. I just wanted to see the flames.

Rich Ives Tue Jan 11, 2005 08:45am

Geez guys, it's winter. No ball being played. Gotta talk about something and maybe have a little fun doing it. No one thinks it would actually happen. It's also a good mental exercise to see if you can find a way to back your positon. Makes you think about the rules. A form of voluntary training.

It's the "hot stove umpires league" - we debate potential (and sometimes stange) plays instead of the potential (and sometimes strange) trades/hirings/firings in the normal hot stove league.

Of course if you already know it all you don't need to participate.

Tim C Tue Jan 11, 2005 09:04am

Yep,
 
As expected a Rat speaking with out understanding the facts.

Even those of us that live in the wet and cold Northwest are already into Federation umpire meetings and spending time working with real baseball issues.

And I do not believe for a second that ddd posted this to "see the flames" . . .

Let eTeamSleeze handle stuff such as this.

T

ozzy6900 Tue Jan 11, 2005 09:42am

Re: Yep,
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Tim C
As expected a Rat speaking with out understanding the facts.

Even those of us that live in the wet and cold Northwest are already into Federation umpire meetings and spending time working with real baseball issues.

And I do not believe for a second that ddd posted this to "see the flames" . . .

Let eTeamSleeze handle stuff such as this.

T

Yeah, but I had some fun with the thread on this one!

Rich Ives Tue Jan 11, 2005 10:23am

I don't care about the wet and cold NW. I'm in the snow-covered frozen NE, looking at a sleet/frezing rain forecast. Things aren't on your schedule here. Just because you're busy on baseball things there doesn't mean we are here.

BTW, the FED baseball interpreters meeting hasn't even happened yet - it's Jan 19th in Indianapolis.

People are only beginning to think about baseball here.

The only baseball item in the newspaper sports calendar is one youth league announcing signups Feb 15-17. Not a single umpire meeting notice from any of the local associations.

HS Practices haven't started yet. None of the schools even have the baseball schedule posted on their web sites.

Youth leagues haven't even done signups yet and won't for another 4-6 weeks.

LL's East Region UIC clinic is Feb 12-13 and the umpire schools are Mar 30 - April 10.

It's winter here.

Have a good season.

Tim C Tue Jan 11, 2005 10:42am

Hmmmm,
 
"BTW, the FED baseball interpreters meeting hasn't even happened yet - it's Jan 19th in Indianapolis."

Sooo, do you have a point or this akin to a "Rat" barking from the bench, "Hey Blue, where was that pitch?"

We have 200 umpires that work real baseball and they need to be sharp . . . we are fully into our training mode.

+++

"HS Practices haven't started yet."

They have not started here either . . . how does that stop umpires from starting their training?

eTeamSleeze is a waste of bandwidth . . . but, of course, so are the majority of my posts.

Tee

jicecone Tue Jan 11, 2005 11:02am

Your joking right Rich?

After going over to the other side of the mountain, I now realaize that you are serious.

If this is your form of entertainment during the winter months, they need help in South East Asia right now. At least the result will be much more satisfying. Then again, at least TO ME.

Rich Ives Tue Jan 11, 2005 11:20am

Just what is wrong with playing around with silly situations? If it's a waste of your time, don't participate.

And why is insulting people OK?

Tim C Tue Jan 11, 2005 11:45am

OK, I can't resist . . .
 
Then why don't Rats stay on web sites that are made for Rats rather than potificating on sites that are for umpires?

Tee


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