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Bandit Mon Oct 18, 2004 08:59pm

Can you have an infield fly rule applied on a bunt in Baseball ?

Atl Blue Mon Oct 18, 2004 09:34pm

No

jumpmaster Mon Oct 18, 2004 10:02pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Atl Blue
No
please justify...

Jake80 Mon Oct 18, 2004 10:44pm

OBR 2.00 Definition of an infield fly.

Dave Davies Tue Oct 19, 2004 12:20am

You must have been Watching the Red Sox -Yankee game where McCarver wos slobbering all over himself in regards to the bunt that Posada caught.

He thinks that a bunted ball can be an Infield Fly. He also thought that if Posada "Dropped" the ball, he could have gotten force out double or triple plays.

McCarver continues to prove that he remains one of the major horses asses on the Planet.

Dave
******

jpc2119 Tue Oct 19, 2004 12:22am

the only thing more obnoxious than mccarver is that stupid scooter

Dave Davies Tue Oct 19, 2004 12:24am

I heard the name "Scooter" used for the first tome this evening.

Who is this guy? Give me some background.

Thanks, Dave

Gee Tue Oct 19, 2004 07:36am

McCarver didn't surprise me with his stupid comments. I think he actually said 'The ball didn't go high enough to be called an infield fly'. Huh?

What did surprise me was the fact that Posada didn't let the ball drop 'untouched' and turn two or three. The batter stayed there for quite a while and the base runners had returned to their bases. I guess they didn't want to gamble on the spin of the ball as it could have backfired. G.

Sal Giaco Tue Oct 19, 2004 07:58am

Quote:

Originally posted by Gee
"The (bunted)ball didn't go high enough to be called an infield fly".
A true "McCarverism" statement.

umpyre007 Tue Oct 19, 2004 08:08am

Quote:

Originally posted by Dave Davies
I heard the name "Scooter" used for the first tome this evening.

Who is this guy? Give me some background.

Thanks, Dave

It's an animated baseball that "shows" the different pitches and how they break.

It's also:

http://www.baseballlibrary.com/baseb...zzuto_Phil.stm

U7

WindyCityBlue Tue Oct 19, 2004 10:10am

I heard the high enough quote and laughed so hard, I think I hurt something. Two games ago, he kept saying the ball was "foul tipped" after the batter just got a piece of it and it went into the dirt or back to the screen.

But my favorite is McCarville saying is that umpires look where they batter sets up in the box to determine if he went or not on a bunt attempt. He then caught himself and said, "Of course it's only a strike if he swings at it or it crosses the plate in the strike zone." Thanks Tim, for clarifying that.

LDUB Tue Oct 19, 2004 01:07pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Dave Davies
He thinks that a bunted ball can be an Infield Fly. He also thought that if Posada "Dropped" the ball, he could have gotten force out double or triple plays.
Why would he not be able to get a double play? R1 and R2 are both standing on or right by their respective bases. All Posada had to do is let the ball drop and throw it around the bases.

Dave Davies Tue Oct 19, 2004 01:40pm

You can't drop it unless you touch it first. I agree with you if the ball falls untouched.

WindyCityBlue Tue Oct 19, 2004 02:26pm

Let's have some fun...

Has anyone here ever called an infield fly on a line drive or a bunt?

Gee Tue Oct 19, 2004 03:29pm

Not I, they are pretty quick and don't leave time to make the call.

When I did my first HS game, many years ago, my partner had to leave early. A real high infield fly was hit and there were men on first and second. Got it.

I proudly stepped up in front of the plate with mask in left hand and yelled: "Infield fly, batter is out". The ball was caught and to my chagrin, all the players left the field. There were two outs in the last of the last. I quickly rolled the balls back and went to my car. G.

gordon30307 Tue Oct 19, 2004 03:42pm

Never did that. However I was coaching a game these were 14 year olds. Bases juiced no outs. My batter hits a sceaming liner down the first base line. First baseman jumps for it hits off his glove falls to the ground two runs score everyone else is safe. Umpire says the first baseman drops it on purpose now no runs score and I got an out. Didn't get tossed from the game though.

WindyCityBlue Tue Oct 19, 2004 03:56pm

Why? I would have been tossed faster than Paris Hilton on first date. I hate it when umpires coach and don't understand that ejections are and have always been part of the game. As an umpire, I recognize that a well timed ejection does more FOR the coach than against him. His team gets jacked and rallies. I've coached and played in games whee I've been tossed. You see...I know the seven deadly words!

gordon30307 Tue Oct 19, 2004 04:42pm

We were on the Board of Directors of the league together I had to present a good example. We also had a few beers together after meetings

umpduck11 Tue Oct 19, 2004 06:53pm

McCarver wanna-be
 
As poor as McCarver is, FOX has at least one other
just as bad.Cardinals v. Astros,not sure which game
it was. Batter strokes a liner over the head of Pujols,
who jumped and reached for the ball.Mitt flies into the
air.I couldn't tell if it were intentional.
Anyway,McCarver-wannabe(I don't know who it was),proceeds
to repeatedly claim that there is a two-base penalty
for merely throwing the mitt at the batted ball!!No
mention of the necessity to actually make contact with
the ball,or that it would have to be judged as intentional,
or that OBR 7.05 states: Each runner,including the batter
may,without liability to be put out, advance_ c: three bases if a fielder deliberately throws his glove at AND touches a fair ball.


Sal Giaco Tue Oct 19, 2004 07:28pm

Been there - done that

Dave Davies Tue Oct 19, 2004 07:35pm

That would be Steve "Psycho" Lyons.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Tue Oct 19, 2004 09:16pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Dave Davies
You must have been Watching the Red Sox -Yankee game where McCarver wos slobbering all over himself in regards to the bunt that Posada caught.

He thinks that a bunted ball can be an Infield Fly. He also thought that if Posada "Dropped" the ball, he could have gotten force out double or triple plays.

McCarver continues to prove that he remains one of the major horses asses on the Planet.

Dave
******


How dare you insult the two horses that my wife has owned over the last 35 years by calling Tim McCarver a horse's ***.

MTD, Sr.


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