Did anyone see the Cubs vs Astro's game Sunday where Cub announcer Steve Stone was explaining that the hands are part of the bat and the hitter should not get first base when hit in the hands?

And your problem with that is?????

Refer to page 569 of your rule book and you will see that the statment is correct!

well, that depends on whether the pitch was struck at or not.

Coach:

Good Lord. The hands are NEVER part of the bat. It doesn't matter whether the pitch was struck at or not. When the pitch hits any part of the batter's body, no matter what the batter was doing, the ball is dead. Dead is dead.

Hands are not part of the bat. If the pitch is a ball and batter gets hit in the hands ball is dead batter awarded first. Batter hit in the hands pitch is a strike or batter swings at it ball is dead and a strike is called. Batter swings at a pitch ball is "hit in fair territory" ball is dead and a strike is recorded.

Hands part of bat
 

I guess I can't be to hard on Steve Stone if we have senior members that think the same thing.
I always tell coaches that until Sportmart starts selling bats with hands attached to them...hands are not part of the bat.

[Edited by collinb on Aug 31st, 2004 at 06:06 AM]

Hey Chad, looks like another article in the making
 

Hands are not part of the bat.

Quote: "well, that depends on whether the pitch was struck at or not."

Here you go, Chad. This ought to be worth a couple of sheckles from Pop C. If he's interested in how well you spark lively conversation, here's your next big chance.

I think that we can plainly see
My hands are part of my bat, not me.
For if I'd brought some hands out there
I wouldn't have made that fielding error!

I bet Chad was responding to if the batter gets first base or not. He is not as stupid as some of you are making him sound.

I'm sure that's his story now.

Re: Hey Chad, looks like another article in the making
 

Been Dare;

At current exchange rates, Papa C is paying about 155 shekels per article. We need an Israeli umpire to balance out the Canadians, etc.

Peter

He never said the hands are part of the bat.

My reading comprehension indicates that he is making the accurate point that SHOULD a batter be hit by a pitch, that he would NOT be awarded 1st if he offered at the pitch.

C'mon, Garth - certainly you can do better than <i>this</i> in your desperate quest to find missteps by those you don't like.

David Emerling
Memphis, TN

Garth;

This is mean spirited on your part. Wobster is, by his own admission, a kiddie ball umpire. He is not holding himself up as an expert, unlike some here who have thousands of posts to their credit, claim to be experts, but say very little.

Consider this for a minute:

As a 2nd year umpire, you attend a NCAA D1 game as a fan only to discover that one of the umpires has not shown up. The other umpire asks you to fill in. You are totally unqualified but you do it because it will be great experience. Even though you get eaten alive, you survive the game, have fun, and got some great experience that few others of your skill would get a shot at.

Likewise, Wobster has been asked by Carl to write some articles because Carl is short of material. Wobster is the big winner here. He is forced to carefully think about his avocation if he is going to put it in print for the big boys. The big boys are eating his lunch but he is learning a ton about umpiring. Like the second year umpire suiting up for a D1 game, why shouldn't Wobster take the opportunity if someone is willing to hire him? We are not talking about brain surgery here since any mistakes that he makes will have no lasting significance in the big scheme of things.

Peter

[Edited by His High Holiness on Aug 30th, 2004 at 01:57 PM]

Real class.
 

:rolleyes:

I can see Peter that you will go to any length to try to trash someone's reputation.

Yes, I was commenting on the first base award. I obviously know that the hands are not part of the bat.

And Garth, you can call me coach all you want, as it is one of my titles, but I am an umpire first. I have been umpiring 8 years, and coaching for 1. You figure it out.

Flame on....

[Edited by wobster on Aug 30th, 2004 at 02:30 PM]