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Rich Tue Jul 13, 2004 07:13am

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Originally posted by DG
They are wearing a light grey shirt this year. I think cream was a color they used a couple years ago, and is still available for sale. I have not seen a light grey one for sale.
I haven't seen the light grey since last year. This year, only the new blue shirt and the black.

depdawg Tue Jul 13, 2004 08:58am

Light Gray's out
 
Light Gray is out in MLB this year. I have always worn either light blue or cream during the summer. Last week I tried the black during the 2nd game of a d/h. Temp was 92 and humidity about 90%. I wore a gray under armor. Was not any hotter than when I wore a light blue or cream. I also think the black looks the best. I absolutley cannot stand that new color blue they are using in MLB. Who knows what they'll come up with next.

DG Tue Jul 13, 2004 07:30pm

Re: Light Gray's out
 
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Originally posted by depdawg
Light Gray is out in MLB this year. I have always worn either light blue or cream during the summer. Last week I tried the black during the 2nd game of a d/h. Temp was 92 and humidity about 90%. I wore a gray under armor. Was not any hotter than when I wore a light blue or cream. I also think the black looks the best. I absolutley cannot stand that new color blue they are using in MLB. Who knows what they'll come up with next.
I don't know what shade of light blue they are using in MLB this year. Mine is like the one NCAA uses.


mick Tue Jul 13, 2004 08:33pm

The Bedouin experiment
 
<LI>A hunert years, or so, ago during some sociology class I remembered the the Bedouins nomadic tribes of the Sinai wore dark colors while most of the other nomadic tribes wore light/white. Just remembered. Don't know why. :rolleyes:

Saturday at a Little League game, I selected Black for a Bedouin experiment, ... to test it. Obviously, my partner went along with it since I was wearing the gear, how much could it hurt? :)

U.P. here 80 is rare, and we were at 89. Partner's feet were hot.

I had a sleeveless interawear "V" under my stuff, and every now and then, a little puff of air would blow through my stuff like an air-conditioner. Not bad at all.

After the game was the problem.

When I took off my stuff and got to the interawear, I could hardly stand far enough away from that smelly thing to get it away from me. ;)

mick


DG Tue Jul 13, 2004 09:10pm

During the game is all I care about, ie how hot do I get. After the game I can change shirts if the one I have on stinks. I got underamour, interawear, nike, and several other brands of underclothes that wick away the sweat (ie heat). I even have some wicking socks to help my feet out, but I ain't wearing a dark shirt in the summertime for a daytime game unless it's MANDATORY, and then I ain't happy about it.

mrm21711 Tue Jul 13, 2004 09:48pm

No way DG you are wrong, the sage grey (official name) was introduced during the 2000 playoffs. A cream color was never worn I do not believe. 1999 was the last year of the navy blue. The sage grey was replaced this year by charcoal gray pants and the new blue color. Read this article:

http://worldumpires.com/news/060104Uniforms.htm


DG Tue Jul 13, 2004 10:05pm

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Originally posted by mrm21711
No way DG you are wrong, the sage grey (official name) was introduced during the 2000 playoffs. A cream color was never worn I do not believe. 1999 was the last year of the navy blue. The sage grey was replaced this year by charcoal gray pants and the new blue color. Read this article:

http://worldumpires.com/news/060104Uniforms.htm


Who cares what MLB wears? I only care what I wear, and my partner. On a hot summer day game it is either powder blue or cream, unless dark blue is mandatory for the game I am doing. I don't own a black and have no need for one.

So I wonder, why is cream available if it has not been used?

mick Tue Jul 13, 2004 10:15pm

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Originally posted by DG
On a hot summer day game it is either powder blue or cream, unless dark blue is mandatory for the game I am doing.
I wear a cream "T" over my protector, under my jersey to "hide" my paraphenalia.
mick

DG Tue Jul 13, 2004 10:27pm

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Originally posted by mick
Quote:

Originally posted by DG
On a hot summer day game it is either powder blue or cream, unless dark blue is mandatory for the game I am doing.
I wear a cream "T" over my protector, under my jersey to "hide" my paraphenalia.
mick

Interesting concept, a third shirt... I am hot again, thinking about it.

mick Tue Jul 13, 2004 10:32pm

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Originally posted by DG
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Originally posted by mick
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Originally posted by DG
On a hot summer day game it is either powder blue or cream, unless dark blue is mandatory for the game I am doing.
I wear a cream "T" over my protector, under my jersey to "hide" my paraphenalia.
mick

Interesting concept, a third shirt... I am hot again, thinking about it.

Maybe that's why my Black ain't so hot. :)

GarthB Wed Jul 14, 2004 01:09am

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Originally posted by mrm21711
A cream color was never worn I do not believe.

If I can see through the double negative, you believe wrong. Cream shirts were indeed worn by MLB umpires.

akalsey Wed Jul 14, 2004 02:29pm

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A hunert years, or so, ago during some sociology class I remembered the the Bedouins nomadic tribes of the Sinai wore dark colors while most of the other nomadic tribes wore light/white. Just remembered. Don't know why.
Bedouins use black tents because they make a natural heat pump. The weave of the tent is loose. Hot air rises. What happens is the sun heats the black fabric and the air immediately surrounding the fabric. That air then rises to the top of the tent and exits through the loose weave. If air exits, more air must enter, so fresh air enters through open flaps in the tenp, creating a constant breeze.

The black robes follow much the same concept. By wearing loose black clothing, you end up with airflow even if there is no breeze.

White clothing does reflect more IR, preventing it from heating up as quickly, but it also reflects more UV light, causing uncovered areas of your body to be bombarded with UV from both the sun and the reflection. That's why you get sunburned easily while snow skiing.

And although white clothing doesn't heat up as quickly in the sun, the British army conducted experiments in WW2 that found after spending some time in the sun it doesn't matter what color you are wearing. All colors ended up at the same temperature next to the skin.

So if you wear some good interawear and a loose dark shirt, you will probably end up feeling cooler than if you wear light colors that reflect light.

mick Wed Jul 14, 2004 03:17pm

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Originally posted by akalsey

Bedouins use black tents because they make a natural heat pump. The weave of the tent is loose. Hot air rises. What happens is the sun heats the black fabric and the air immediately surrounding the fabric. That air then rises to the top of the tent and exits through the loose weave. If air exits, more air must enter, so fresh air enters through open flaps in the tenp, creating a constant breeze.

The black robes follow much the same concept. By wearing loose black clothing, you end up with airflow even if there is no breeze.

White clothing does reflect more IR, preventing it from heating up as quickly, but it also reflects more UV light, causing uncovered areas of your body to be bombarded with UV from both the sun and the reflection. That's why you get sunburned easily while snow skiing.

And although white clothing doesn't heat up as quickly in the sun, the British army conducted experiments in WW2 that found after spending some time in the sun it doesn't matter what color you are wearing. All colors ended up at the same temperature next to the skin.

So if you wear some good interawear and a loose dark shirt, you will probably end up feeling cooler than if you wear light colors that reflect light.

Cool! :cool:
mick

DG Wed Jul 14, 2004 04:38pm

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Originally posted by akalsey
Quote:

A hunert years, or so, ago during some sociology class I remembered the the Bedouins nomadic tribes of the Sinai wore dark colors while most of the other nomadic tribes wore light/white. Just remembered. Don't know why.
Bedouins use black tents because they make a natural heat pump. The weave of the tent is loose. Hot air rises. What happens is the sun heats the black fabric and the air immediately surrounding the fabric. That air then rises to the top of the tent and exits through the loose weave. If air exits, more air must enter, so fresh air enters through open flaps in the tenp, creating a constant breeze.

The black robes follow much the same concept. By wearing loose black clothing, you end up with airflow even if there is no breeze.

White clothing does reflect more IR, preventing it from heating up as quickly, but it also reflects more UV light, causing uncovered areas of your body to be bombarded with UV from both the sun and the reflection. That's why you get sunburned easily while snow skiing.

And although white clothing doesn't heat up as quickly in the sun, the British army conducted experiments in WW2 that found after spending some time in the sun it doesn't matter what color you are wearing. All colors ended up at the same temperature next to the skin.

So if you wear some good interawear and a loose dark shirt, you will probably end up feeling cooler than if you wear light colors that reflect light.

"And the sun heats the fabric and the area around the fabric". I don't think I can get enough loose air space under my shirt to make it act like a bedouin's tent. And I seem to recall British soldiers wearing khaki in the desert.

[Edited by DG on Jul 14th, 2004 at 05:50 PM]

mick Wed Jul 14, 2004 06:03pm

[QUOTE]Originally posted by DG
Quote:

And I seem to recall British soldiers wearing khaki in the desert.
DG,
That may have something to do with the color of the desert. :)
mick


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