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Larry Mon Apr 05, 2004 11:19pm

During a game last week I was working the plate, the best I can recall; strike two, one out, R1 on first base. The pitch come I calls strike three, the catcher dropped the ball, batter attempted to make it to first base but, was thrown out by the catcher. Question, did the batter have a right to advance.

Carl Childress Tue Apr 06, 2004 03:37am

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Originally posted by Larry
During a game last week I was working the plate, the best I can recall; strike two, one out, R1 on first base. The pitch come I calls strike three, the catcher dropped the ball, batter attempted to make it to first base but, was thrown out by the catcher. Question, did the batter have a right to advance.
No, if first base is occupied with fewer than two out, the batter-runner is out. You and your partner should signal vigorously: "He's out! He's out!" After all, it's not a secret.

mick Fri Apr 09, 2004 09:46pm

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Originally posted by Larry
During a game last week I was working the plate, the best I can recall; strike two, one out, R1 on first base. The pitch come I calls strike three, the catcher dropped the ball, batter attempted to make it to first base but, was thrown out by the catcher. Question, did the batter have a right to advance.
Yes, Larry,
Like Mr Childress said, call the out cuz something weird could happen when that catcher makes a throw to 1st that goes to right field, or dead ball territory.

If you call the out, you did your job and you'll stay outa the deep grass. :)
mick

DG Fri Apr 09, 2004 10:04pm

When I used to coach, I told my batters to always run on a dropped 3rd strike. This way they did not have to know when to run and when not to. Sometimes the catcher would throw the ball in right field, which was good for us, even though the batter was out. Rarely, was the umpire so vigorous with the out call.

Carl Childress Fri Apr 09, 2004 10:16pm

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Originally posted by DG
When I used to coach, I told my batters to always run on a dropped 3rd strike. This way they did not have to know when to run and when not to. Sometimes the catcher would throw the ball in right field, which was good for us, even though the batter was out. Rarely, was the umpire so vigorous with the out call.
We've done it in our association since Texas v Stanford in the CWS in the 1980s. Of course, it's a case book ruling for NFHS.

3appleshigh Sat Apr 10, 2004 09:52am

In Baseball Ontario
 
The call vocally, with the fist pumping is to be

"He's Out, He's Out, He's Still Out" I always find it funny to say.

Carl Childress Sat Apr 10, 2004 09:56am

Re: In Baseball Ontario
 
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Originally posted by 3appleshigh
The call vocally, with the fist pumping is to be

"He's Out, He's Out, He's Still Out" I always find it funny to say.

Our mechanics are: "He's out. He's out! The batter's out!" Of course, it ain't the batter who's out, but there is no point in confusing everybody by saying "The batter-runner's out."

David B Sat Apr 10, 2004 02:01pm

Re: Re: In Baseball Ontario
 
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Originally posted by Carl Childress
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Originally posted by 3appleshigh
The call vocally, with the fist pumping is to be

"He's Out, He's Out, He's Still Out" I always find it funny to say.

Our mechanics are: "He's out. He's out! The batter's out!" Of course, it ain't the batter who's out, but there is no point in confusing everybody by saying "The batter-runner's out."

That's what we use also. I also encourage our BU to say the same. That helps the runners who are usually confused even though they have played ball for 10 years.

Thanks
David



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