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todd66 Wed May 31, 2017 12:58pm

crazy strikeout
 
I have never seen this before.

https://screengrabber.deadspin.com/w...-yo-1795606023

Mountaincoach Fri Jun 02, 2017 10:29am

Wow. Good reminder to hold the call until the ball is in the catchers glove.

robbie Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:16am

Live action I highly doubt I call that a strike.
There was no attempt at the ball and it was a practice swing "after" the pitch....

todd66 Fri Jun 02, 2017 12:44pm

Actually, he swings before the ball crosses the foul line so the pitch had not ended. The pitch did not end until the catcher picked it up. The batter could have run to first after the swing since it was technically a dropped third strike.

robbie Fri Jun 02, 2017 01:36pm

I understand all of that - I'm telling you what my judgement would have been live.

todd66 Fri Jun 02, 2017 01:46pm

I agree that at the high school level, the best call would be a "ball". But, since this was a minor league game and these guys are graded on their performance and rule knowledge, Kuddos for making the correct call and not the easy call.

Rich Ives Fri Jun 02, 2017 02:47pm

It was a pitch. The batter swung. There is no "it's only a strike if the pitch is within x feet of the batter" rule.

MT 73 Fri Jun 02, 2017 03:53pm

It is a judgement call and in my judgement he did not strike at the pitch.

Rich Ives Fri Jun 02, 2017 04:32pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by MT 73 (Post 1006386)
It is a judgement call and in my judgement he did not strike at the pitch.

How far away from the batter is your demarcation point?

Can a batter claim they didn't mean to strike at a pitch? After all they know and you have to speculate. :D

Batter thought he was being funny. He swung on purpose. Call it.

CT1 Sat Jun 03, 2017 05:32am

No attempt to hit the ball = no swing in my judgment. However, todd66's comment about grading is a valid point.

bsaucer Sat Jun 03, 2017 07:10pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by CT1 (Post 1006405)
No attempt to hit the ball = no swing in my judgment. However, todd66's comment about grading is a valid point.

I've seen batters swing at wild-pitch third strikes and run to first. It's obvious he missed on purpose so he can run to first. But it's still a strike.

Mountaincoach Sat Jun 03, 2017 09:20pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsaucer (Post 1006424)
I've seen batters swing at wild-pitch third strikes and run to first. It's obvious he missed on purpose so he can run to first. But it's still a strike.

Then why didn't he actually run to first? This kid just wasn't paying attention to what he was doing while standing in the batter's box.

MT 73 Sat Jun 03, 2017 10:54pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Ives (Post 1006389)
How far away from the batter is your demarcation point?

Can a batter claim they didn't mean to strike at a pitch? After all they know and you have to speculate. :D

Batter thought he was being funny. He swung on purpose. Call it.

So you agree that he did not attempt to strike at the pitch...

Welpe Mon Jun 05, 2017 09:38pm

I'm not even thinking of calling that anything other than a strike. Doing otherwise is trying too hard to be a rule book pioneer.

What's the expected call when a pitch is thrown and the bat is swung? A strike. Stick with that.

parrothead Tue Jun 06, 2017 11:23am

I think he was trying to be funny by swinging, but someone brought it up, I always was curious when/if ever is the "statute of limitations" on a thrown pitch, so batter recognizes ball is past C, can they then swing and run? We have all seen batters way late on pitches and literally swing when ball is in glove? I guess this comes down to intent to hit the ball?


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