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Get-it-Correct Thu Oct 01, 2015 05:40pm

Dead Ball or Out?
 
Batter bunts ball. Ball lands, in fair territory, 12 inches in front of batters box. With the batter's first step out of the box, his foot lands directly on top of the fair ball (his other foot is still inside the batter's box. The rule states one foot must come in contact with the ground completely outside the box for the batter to be considered "out of the box". Since the top of a fair ball is not the ground, what's the correct call? Is it a dead-ball (just as if he came in contact with a batted ball while still in the box) or do you have an "out" for contacting a live ball while not in the box?

Rich Ives Thu Oct 01, 2015 08:57pm

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Originally Posted by Get-it-Correct (Post 967416)
Batter bunts ball. Ball lands, in fair territory, 12 inches in front of batters box. With the batter's first step out of the box, his foot lands directly on top of the fair ball (his other foot is still inside the batter's box. The rule states one foot must come in contact with the ground completely outside the box for the batter to be considered "out of the box". Since the top of a fair ball is not the ground, what's the correct call? Is it a dead-ball (just as if he came in contact with a batted ball while still in the box) or do you have an "out" for contacting a live ball while not in the box?

It's an out. Batter was not in a legal position the box at the time.

umpjim Thu Oct 01, 2015 10:41pm

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Originally Posted by Get-it-Correct (Post 967416)
Batter bunts ball. Ball lands, in fair territory, 12 inches in front of batters box. With the batter's first step out of the box, his foot lands directly on top of the fair ball (his other foot is still inside the batter's box. The rule states one foot must come in contact with the ground completely outside the box for the batter to be considered "out of the box". Since the top of a fair ball is not the ground, what's the correct call? Is it a dead-ball (just as if he came in contact with a batted ball while still in the box) or do you have an "out" for contacting a live ball while not in the box?

What code are you referencing the rule from?

ozzy6900 Fri Oct 02, 2015 10:56am

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Originally Posted by Get-it-Correct (Post 967416)
Batter bunts ball. Ball lands, in fair territory, 12 inches in front of batters box. With the batter's first step out of the box, his foot lands directly on top of the fair ball (his other foot is still inside the batter's box. The rule states one foot must come in contact with the ground completely outside the box for the batter to be considered "out of the box". Since the top of a fair ball is not the ground, what's the correct call? Is it a dead-ball (just as if he came in contact with a batted ball while still in the box) or do you have an "out" for contacting a live ball while not in the box?

You are over thinking this scenario.

Is the ball in fair territory? Yes
Did the BR make contact with a fair ball? Yes

The call is OUT!

No other thinking is required to make this call.


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