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Mon Nov 07, 2016, 03:51pm
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LOD on 4th down
Situation: 4th and 5 for A at B's 29.5 yard line with 15 seconds left in 4th Quarter and A behind by 4 points. QB A7 roles out and runs for first down, but just before he's down he throws an incomplete IFP into the endzone at B's: A) 18 yard line, B) 22 yard line, or C) 19.5 yard line. There are 5 seconds left on the clock.
Enforcement? I think the options for A and B are fairly straight forward, but am interested in hearing about any special mechanics to help enforce the situation in C. 
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Mon Nov 07, 2016, 03:59pm
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Make the foul from a whole yard line. It's an approximation anyways, especially if the QB is on the run when he throws.
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Mon Nov 07, 2016, 04:42pm
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I typically would use a whole yard line. I posted this way to see if there are alternatives to stepping off a 5 yard penalty, between yard lines, and then measuring for a first down for as in play C. In this case that action would dictate whether A keeps the ball for one more play, or if B takes the ball over on downs....right?
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Mon Nov 07, 2016, 06:00pm
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IFP foul is enforced from the end of the run (spot of the pass), penalty is 5 yards, loss of (right to repeat) down. If the subsequent spot is beyond the LTG, 1st down for A, clock starts on the ready. If the subsequent spot remains behind the LTG, 1st down for B, clock starts on the snap.
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Mon Nov 07, 2016, 07:38pm
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In case C, would you consider measuring if the end of the run was "ahead of the tape" by flipping the chains ahead by pivoting on the line to gain post? Or step off the 5 yard penalty, and then measure for a first down?
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Mon Nov 07, 2016, 08:56pm
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I'm interested in the clock status. If team A winds up with first down, and a stopped clock (with a lot of time taken for administration before the RFP, even w/o the possibly tricky measurement) for the incompletion, it seems they've gained a good deal for their illegal forward pass. Consider that the passer was well beyond the neutral zone when he let fly; seems like a deliberate attempt to conserve time. Would you invoke 3-4-6 and start the clock on the RFP? Seems the least you could do in the situation.
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