Timing question

Nevadaref

I can't count in tenths of a second. Timers make mistakes.

Camron Rust

Nevadaref wrote
I can't count in tenths of a second. Timers make mistakes.

Can you count in Mississippi's? If so, you've got a count in 0.2 second increments.

One - 0.2
Miss - 0.4
i - 0.6
ssi - 0.8
ppi - 1.0

If your cadence is not quite regular, it may not be exactly accurate, but it would be a valid count.

deecee

I'm taking off .3 seconds. I am making an allowance for the clock starting on the tip and going out of bounds. There is a threshold that you can be 100% certain that much time went off the clock without knowing how much actually went off. You just need to apply some common sense.

In most cases in what was described I would be 100% certain that .3 seconds as that number increases my certainty decreases.

Adam

.3 seconds refers to catching and releasing a ball. It has nothing to do with the time it takes a ball to go from being tipped to hitting out of bounds. Depending on the player's proximity to the line, it could easily be less than .3 seconds. One could maybe make the case that the NFHS ruling requires at least .1, but .3 comes out of thin air for this situation.

Nevadaref

Adam wrote
.3 seconds refers to catching and releasing a ball. It has nothing to do with the time it takes a ball to go from being tipped to hitting out of bounds. Depending on the player's proximity to the line, it could easily be less than .3 seconds. One could maybe make the case that the NFHS ruling requires at least .1, but .3 comes out of thin air for this situation.

Are you aware of the NBA rule requiring 0.3 to be removed from the clock anytime the ball is touched inbounds and then becomes dead again from a stopped clock situation?

That is from where deecee is taking the grounds for his decision.

deecee

Adam wrote
.3 seconds refers to catching and releasing a ball. It has nothing to do with the time it takes a ball to go from being tipped to hitting out of bounds. Depending on the player's proximity to the line, it could easily be less than .3 seconds. One could maybe make the case that the NFHS ruling requires at least .1, but .3 comes out of thin air for this situation.

My statement said for most cases. There may be times where the touch happens close to the OOB and the ball immediately goes out at almost the same time. In this case I wouldn't be comfortable with .3 seconds. In reality in most cases the number is greater than .3 but to me it's one I'm comfortable using as my baseline. I sure as hell am NOT going to NOT take any time off when the ball was legally touched and the clock didn't start.

Adam

Nevadaref wrote
Are you aware of the NBA rule requiring 0.3 to be removed from the clock anytime the ball is touched inbounds and then becomes dead again from a stopped clock situation?

That is from where deecee is taking the grounds for his decision.

Nope, I wasn't aware of the NBA rule.

ODog

deecee wrote
I sure as hell am NOT going to NOT take any time off when the ball was legally touched and the clock didn't start.

New scenario: First quarter, 5:16 left. Throw-in is tipped by defender right back out of bounds. Clock still reads 5:16. You bothering with this or were you just talking end-of-period scenarios?

Adam

ODog wrote
New scenario: First quarter, 5:16 left. Throw-in is tipped by defender right back out of bounds. Clock still reads 5:16. You bothering with this or were you just talking end-of-period scenarios?

I'm not messing with this: especially if the clock isn't displaying .1s.

BillyMac

Adam wrote
I'm not messing with this: especially if the clock isn't displaying .1s.

Basketball Rules Interpretations - 2009-10
SITUATION 11: ... the official may put the correct time on the clock, but must make some allowance for the touching by A1 – likely 10ths of a second, if displayed.

deecee

ODog wrote
New scenario: First quarter, 5:16 left. Throw-in is tipped by defender right back out of bounds. Clock still reads 5:16. You bothering with this or were you just talking end-of-period scenarios?

I don't care about this. These are 2 different scenarios. In the original scenario if its like a 2-3 possession game I'm not picking the nit either.

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