[deleted] C is the same guy who missed the shooting foul in UCONN-Louisville that led directly to Kevin Ollie's ejection. Perhaps biz will be along shortly to re-verify Brian O'Connell's dedication.
johnny d The missed call did not lead directly to Ollie's ejection. Missed calls happen all the time. As a D1 coach, Ollie is expected to demonstrate restraint and professionalism in those situations. Ollie's inability to control himself and his actions lead to him being ejected. He has no one to blame but himself.
Camron Rust Was that really a missed call? Did the defender not start outside of the RA and back into it? Perhaps the lead judged that he established LGP before he stepped back into the the RA.
johnny d Camron Rust wroteWas that really a missed call? Did the defender not start outside of the RA and back into it? Perhaps the lead judged that he established LGP before he stepped back into the the RA. He would be wrong on that account as well. LGP was initially established with at least one, if not both feet in the RA.
Camron Rust johnny d wroteHe would be wrong on that account as well. LGP was initially established with at least one, if not both feet in the RA. He did have both feet on the floor and in the path well before he backed into the RA too. The only question is whether he was facing the opponent "enough" or not.
APG Camron Rust wroteHe did have both feet on the floor and in the path well before he backed into the RA too. The only question is whether he was facing the opponent "enough" or not. This play is going to be a RA blocking foul no matter how you look at it.
HawkeyeCubP RA block. Center was too high literally the entire time from when the throw-in ended. Did they go to the monitor after this? Was it to determine if there was time left on the game clock at the time of the foul?
blindzebra Not only did he never have LGP outside the RA but he was moving after upward motion started too.
Camron Rust APG wroteThis play is going to be a RA blocking foul no matter how you look at it. Why? Is that because you think he didn't establish LGP outside of it (I don't think he really did...but perhaps the lead did). Or is that because you think it is only about where the he took his final position.
Camron Rust blindzebra wroteNot only did he never have LGP outside the RA While that may be true. blindzebra wrote but he was moving after upward motion started too. This is certainly not. The defender got to the position he took a long time before the shooter got there. The dribbler was just picking up the dribble by the time the defender took his spot.
blindzebra Camron Rust wroteWhile that may be true. This is certainly not. The defender got to the position he took a long time before the shooter got there. The dribbler was just picking up the dribble by the time the defender took his spot. Not sure what you are watching but he moves both feet well after the dribble is gathered.
JetMetFan blindzebra wroteNot sure what you are watching but he moves both feet well after the dribble is gathered. Foot movement doesn't necessarily = loss of LGP (assuming the defender had LGP, by rule, in this instance). It appears after the dribble ended the defender never moved forward.
Camron Rust blindzebra wroteNot sure what you are watching but he moves both feet well after the dribble is gathered. Not relevant to the rule.
blindzebra I see two steps forward after the dribble is gathered with the right foot moving after he left the floor.
Raymond I have initial LGP established while in the RA, and still having one foot on/above the RA when contact occurs.
walt RA play the whole way. This is a play where the C has to help. Like others have said, C was not in position to clearly see the play. That is a block.
[deleted] Those who work NCAA....how exactly does the C help on this play? I mean if the C gets to FLTE and sees the feet in the area, how does he give that information to Lead? Does he simply post too? Does he go to Lead with information after Lead has signaled? Does he try to get Lead to not signal and then signal block?
johnny d The C goes to the lead. Tells him that the defender was in the restricted area, and the defenders number (the lead probably has forgotten it at this point). The lead changes the call and informs the coach that it is not a PC foul because defender was in the RA. Doesn't matter if the lead has already signaled or not.
walt What Johnny said. As soon as the C sees the Lead going PC he needs to get in there. Could be the trail as well. Somebody has to get to the Lead and give the information.